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101. Mormon Teachings and Anarchy: Uncovering the Path to Freedom

When Casey Beres walked away from the Mormon Church, he didn't just leave behind a congregation; he discovered a tapestry of anarchy and voluntaryism hidden within its teachings. In this profound discussion, we find unexpected solidarity with anarchist thought, as Casey unveils how the Book of Mormon's scriptures and doctrines mirror the principles of societal autonomy and individual freedom. Our exchange traverses religious and ideological frontiers, inviting both Mormons and non-Mormons to embrace the underlying values that bind us together as a global family. 

The conversation shifts as we contemplate the personal changes spurred by political disillusionment and debates over the constitution, intensified by the pandemic. As we consider the emotional impact of mandates on both individuals and communities, we delve into the debris of societal pressures. In doing so, we discover a widespread desire for a support network and a community that values individual choice, and we explore the role of authority and governance from a perspective of spiritual enlightenment, not political will.

Wrapping up, we look beyond the horizon of today's interpretations of LDS texts, questioning traditional views on government, war, and America's place in divine providence. We explore the notion of modern slavery within our own societal structures and discuss the frustrations of many modern Christians with the current state of affairs. 

We question divine providence in the American founding and probe the implications of the government's hand in modern slavery. Our quest for understanding takes us from the battlefield of American history to the heart of Christian anarchy, culminating in a call to action for the Mormon community to consider the anarchy threaded within their beliefs. Whether your interest lies in faith, freedom, or the crossroads where they meet, join us for a stimulating conversation that promises to challenge and enlighten.

Connect with the Casey Beres:

Substack: mackenziesspleen.substack.com

Bandcamp: Potbelly MacKraken

Key Moments:

00:02 Anarchy and the Book of Mormon

  • Introduction of Casey Beres to discuss anarchy in the Book of Mormon context.

  • Exploration of Casey's journey from the Mormon Church to anarchist insights.

  • Discussion on the resonance of anarchy and volunteerism with broader anarchist community.

  • Emphasis on commonalities that unite humans beyond individual beliefs.

  • Importance of open dialogue for understanding and breaking down barriers.

08:04 Churches and Conversion to Anarchy

  • Personal reflections on church, faith, and non-traditional worship.

  • Preference for intimate gatherings over structured church services.

  • Influence of anarchy on views of authority and community.

  • Disconnection felt in family-centric church settings.

  • Journey from political apathy to anarchy, inspired by figures like Ron Paul and Michael Malice.

18:27 COVID Horror Stories and Vaccine Mandates

  • Personal impact of COVID-19 mandates on an individual with Tourette syndrome.

  • Challenges of job loss and societal exclusion due to mandates.

  • Importance of support networks during challenging times.

  • Conflicts between state and federal regulations during the pandemic.

  • Reflections on varied societal and political responses to the pandemic.

25:12 Understanding the LDS Scriptural Canon

  • Exploration of anarchy in Mormon scripture, addressing misconceptions.

  • Clarification of 'D&C' and other foundational Mormon texts.

  • Examination of ancient and modern societies in Mormon scripture through an anarchistic lens.

  • Anarchistic interpretation of scriptural events like the flood.

32:13 Anarchy in the Book of Mormon

  • Inspirational similarities between the Bible, Book of Mormon, and D&C.

  • Discussion on societies transitioning to democracy and anarchy in the Book of Mormon.

  • Analysis of anarchy and voluntarism in the Book of Mormon narratives.

  • Challenges in reconciling certain D&C sections with anarchistic principles.

39:28 Government and Anarchy in LDS Scriptures

  • Examination of contradictions in Doctrine and Covenants 134 regarding government.

  • Analysis of government's role in violating individual rights despite claims of protection.

  • Discussion on the compatibility of divine endorsement with flawed human government.

  • Reflection on implications for libertarians, anarchists, and constitutional conservatives.

49:43 Beliefs on God, Constitution, and Slavery

  • Relationship between religion, nationalism, and government in LDS context.

  • Debate on divine inspiration of the U.S. Constitution and America's founding.

  • Comparison of historical chattel slavery to modern governmental control.

  • Discussion on advocating for change and the irony of 'leaving the country'.

59:30 Frustration of Modern Christians and Anarchism

  • Reflection on the U.S.'s history of conflict and personal transition in political beliefs.

  • Exploration of Christian anarchy and Jesus' teachings against hierarchical control.

  • Critique of religious and political leadership's misuse of influence.

  • Biblical perspective on authority and leadership contrary to oppressive power structures.

01:09:07 Promoting Anarchy in the Mormon Community

  • Challenges and goals in introducing anarchism to the Mormon community.

  • Engagement with influential figures and feedback from church members.

  • Importance of gradual change, personal humility, and the impact of the Bad Roman Project.

  • Encouragement for others to contribute to dialogue through various platforms.

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100. Christian Ethics and Stateless Societies: The Anarchist Approach of the Perry Family

In the 100th episode of the podcast, host Craig Harguess is joined by guests Sarah and Jeff Perry from Voluntaryism in Action for a captivating exploration into the confluence of Christian values and the philosophy of anarchy. This milestone episode delves into the nuances of Christian Anarchism and Voluntarism, examining the personal metamorphoses that steer individuals away from traditional political paradigms toward a life of voluntary statelessness underpinned by faith. 

Throughout the episode, Sarah and Jeff Perry share the hurdles encountered in seeking a like-minded community and the challenges a society deeply ingrained with state-oriented ideologies poses. They shed light on the essence of fellowship and kinship, even in the digital sphere, for those who perceive themselves as misfits in a world unprepared for such radical ideas. The conversation also touches on the difficulty of communicating complex ideas over social media and the importance of giving people grace and meeting them where they are, as they were once in a similar position. The group emphasizes that the people they may joke about now were once reflections of their past selves, highlighting the transformative journey that led them to their current ideological stance. 

Taking an unexpected detour, the discussion ventures into the rustic world of homesteading, contrasting the merits of duck and chicken eggs and unpacking the symbolism it holds for Christian anarchists. This segment uncovers the layers of self-reliance and philosophical maturation, accompanied by a narrative of Jeff’s military service and how he underwent a profound ideological shift towards anarchism. 

The episode critically addresses the contentious interpretation of Romans 13 from an anarchist perspective, scrutinizing the alignment—or lack thereof—between modern democratic establishments and the teachings of Jesus. The discourse celebrates the significance of genuine leadership as demonstrated by Jesus, compared to the forceful rule often exhibited by earthly authorities. 

The discussion also spotlights the impactful initiatives of Voluntaryism in Action, emphasizing the human connections nurtured through voluntary charity. This starkly contrasts the impersonal touch of institutionalized aid, underscoring the human and spiritual dimensions of giving.

 Listeners are treated to a blend of humor, social commentary, and personal anecdotes that exemplify the intertwining of Christianity's core tenets with the principles of voluntaryism. As the 100th episode of the podcast, this thought-provoking journey offers an inspiring vision of community, support, and voluntary action shaped by love, grace, understanding, and Christian values.

Connect with the Perrys:

Website

Podcast: Voluntary View on Spotify, iTunes, Youtube

Key Moments:

00:02 Exploring Christian Anarchism and Voluntaryism

• Introduction to the intersection of Christianity and statelessness.

• Personal journeys from conventional politics to stateless existence based on Christian values.

• Importance of community, even if primarily online.

01:11 The Reach of the Bad Roman

• Discussion on the international reach of the podcast.

• Personal reflections on discovering Christian Anarchy.

• Surprise at finding a community with similar beliefs.

09:08 Duck Eggs and Freshly Laid Eggs

• Discussion on homesteading, duck vs. chicken eggs.

• Nutritional content and taste comparison.

• Personal anecdotes about self-sufficiency and philosophical evolution.

15:22 - Military Transition to Anarchism & Non-Judgmental Dialogue

• A former military medical officer's ideological shift towards anarchism.

• Impact of literature and libertarian thought on worldview.

• Emphasis on non-judgmental engagement within the anarchist community.

23:13 Christian Anarchism and the Bad Project

• Craig's journey from neoconservatism to Christian anarchism.

• Misconceptions about Christian Anarchy clarified.

• Sharing personal revelations about faith and statelessness.

26:41 Facebook Thread Drama and Miscommunication

• Addressing miscommunication and drama in a Facebook thread.

• Emphasis on understanding different perspectives within anarchism.

30:05 Understanding Anarchy and Romans 13 (11 Minutes)

• Interpretation of Romans 13 in the context of Christian anarchy.

• Biblical examples of resistance to secular authorities.

• Addressing objections related to submission to governing authorities.

33:57 Not Voting and Complaining About Government

• Discussion on Craig's decision not to vote and its implications.

• The counterintuitive nature of the argument that non-voters cannot complain.

38:41 Voluntarism and Anarchy

• Explanation of voluntarism as a subset of anarchy.

• Voluntarism focuses on voluntary interactions without coercion.

41:22 Religion, Government, and Accountability

• Differences between authority figures and authoritarianism.

• Critique of representative democracy and accountability.

• Reflection on the role of law enforcement and early church teachings.

49:57 Christian Anarchism and Voluntaryism Action

• Exploration of how Voluntaryism in Action embodies Christian Anarchist principles.

• Discussion on the organization's initiatives and community impact.

• Tension between Christianity and statism in church settings.

• Discomfort with nationalistic practices in worship.

• Early Christian teachings versus modern interpretations post-Constantine.

55:42 Voluntaryism

• Origins and evolution of a charitable organization, Voluntaryism in Action.

• Challenges and misconceptions surrounding non-profit work.

• Importance of voluntary giving and the impact of government programs on charity.

57:07 Obtaining & Maintaining 501(c)3 Status

• The process and challenges of obtaining 501(c)3 status for the organization.

• Insights into maintaining non-profit status and its importance.

01:04:18 Voluntaryism in Action

• Celebration of the work and achievements of Voluntaryism in Action.

• Personal anecdotes that underscore the organization's ethos.

01:09:36 Discussion on Voluntaryism in Action

• Impactful work of Voluntaryism in Action aligned with Christian values.

• Encouragement for listener support through donations or involvement.

• Challenges of social media censorship.

01:11:39 Twitter Campaigns and Content Restrictions

• Addressing the impact of content restrictions on social media campaigns.

• The organization's approach to creating and sharing provocative content.

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99. God's Country or Jesus’s Kingdom? Navigating the Nexus of Nationalism and Faith in America

Could the intertwining of faith and state authority be warping the very soul of Christianity? Unlock the complexities of Christian nationalism as we sit down for a round table to dissect the idolatrous juxtaposition of faith and governance. This episode dissects the potential hazards of conflating faith with state authority and how this can distort genuine religious practice and the core tenets of Christianity itself.

Join your host, Craig Harguess, along with friends of the show Chris Polk, Cody Cook, Paul Parayil, and Darren Freidinger, who help us peel back the layers of entanglement to reveal the true call of Faith. Witness a bold examination of Christian nationalism's historical claims and current implications in the realm of politics and social justice. 

As echoes of January 6th reverberate through the national consciousness, we scrutinize its portrayal as a Christian nationalist insurrection and the subsequent impact on political landscapes. The breach, the media's narrative, and the political fallout are dissected with a critical lens, contrasting the motives behind these actions with the broader implications for American society. We confront the seductive pull of cultural identity and the struggle to prioritize important global issues over trivial cultural squabbles. 

Through this dialogue, we strive to foster a deeper understanding of how a desire for a 'Christian nation' impacts both the spiritual body of Christ and our broader societal fabric. With a laid-back yet critical approach, we discuss the importance of curiosity and questioning in religious communities, advocating for meaningful action against social injustices rather than getting lost in cultural distractions. The panel lays out a thought-provoking journey through the contradictions of Christian nationalism, inviting you to reflect, question, and expand your understanding of faith in the public square.

The digital age has transformed the battleground of ideas, and we explore the challenges of engaging in meaningful discourse on social media amid generational technology. As we draw to a close, we advocate for deeper awareness and action, urging listeners not to be sidetracked by fleeting controversies but to remain steadfast in the pursuit of no king but Christ. Tune in for a thought-provoking journey through the contradictions and complexities of Christian nationalism.

Key Moments:

01:20 Christian Nationalism and Its Contradictions

  • Christianity Today Article: What Is Christian Nationalism?

  • Critiqued for distorting religious practice and undermining Christian principles.

  • Enforcement of state authority is a key concern.

05:11 Christian Nationalism and the New Covenant

  • Inconsistencies with Jesus' teachings are highlighted.

  • Cherry-picking from the Old Testament discussed with guest Cody Cook.

15:20 Christian Nationalism and State Role

  • Examination of Christian nationalism and its contrast with a kingdom culture mindset.

  • Emphasis on the spiritual body of Christ over earthly rulers.

27:52 The Impact of Christian Nationalism

  • Growth of the church during persecution discussed.

  • Detachment from state affairs, detrimental effects, and pitfalls of striving for a "Christian nation."

33:13 January 6th and Christian Nationalism Discussion

  • Discussion on the Capitol breach on January 6th.

  • Examination of Christian nationalism, media portrayal, politicians' response, and intentions vs. implications of actions.

43:54 Exploring Christian Nationalism in Politics

  • Aftermath of January 6th discussed.

  • Accusations of Christian nationalism, manipulation by agencies, spectrum of ideologies, and complex relationship between American and Christian identities.

58:49 Challenges of Social Media Discourse

  • Christian nationalism debates on social media.

  • Generational gap in technology use, lack of curiosity in education and religion, and strategy for online discourse.

01:08:32 Christian Nationalism and Cultural Identity

  • American democracy's defense of Anglo-Protestant culture discussed.

  • Exclusion of Catholics and Orthodox believers, trivial cultural controversies distracting from pressing social injustices.

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98. The Devil’s Lettuce: Cannabis and Jesus a Christian Roundtable

About this Episode

In this eye-opening episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, we venture into the intricate, complex, and often misunderstood realm of marijuana. Your host for this thought-provoking journey is Craig Harguess, accompanied by a diverse group of guests - Scott, Aaron, Jim, and William. 

Each brings to the table their personal encounters, knowledge, and unique viewpoints on the topic of marijuana use, which goes beyond the clichéd stereotypes and delves into societal, legal, and religious dimensions. Our intention with this episode is to challenge the prevailing misconceptions, stimulate intellectual discourse, and provide a fresh perspective on marijuana. 

We aim to demystify the subject and explore its multi-faceted dimensions – from the societal implications of marijuana use to the controversial war on drugs, and from the adverse effects of government propaganda to the potential medical benefits of marijuana. One of the significant areas of discussion is the comparison of marijuana with pharmaceutical drugs and alcohol. In a world where prescription drugs and alcohol consumption are largely normalized, we delve into the complex question of whether marijuana, a naturally occurring plant, is inherently any more harmful or beneficial. 

From a religious perspective, the episode ventures into uncharted territory as it discusses the place of marijuana in Christian teachings. Rooted in the belief that God is the ultimate creator, our host, and guests explore the concept that marijuana, as a part of God's creation, may have a significant role to play. They navigate through scripture and theology, bringing forth interpretations that aim to challenge conventional beliefs. 

Throughout this illuminating discussion, we are constantly reminded that this conversation is not about advocating for 'potheads', but rather about the legality and morality of a God-created plant. 

The goal is to encourage an understanding of cannabis that transcends the stigma and stereotypes, helping us to better comprehend the complexities of state power, control, and the choices we make as Christians. The conversation dives deep into the heart of the controversy surrounding marijuana - the legal implications, mass incarceration, and societal perception of marijuana use. It brings to light the interplay of political power and public opinion, questioning the narratives we've been fed and urging us to think critically about the societal structures that govern us.

 This enlightening episode of the Bad Roman Podcast invites you to partake in a thought-provoking conversation, unraveling the intricacies, complexities, and controversies surrounding marijuana. Whether you are a believer or not, this discussion seeks to broaden your understanding and encourage a more informed perspective on marijuana use. 

Join us on the Bad Roman Podcast as we embark on this exploratory journey, challenging preconceived notions, stimulating deeper conversations, and fostering an open-minded, nuanced understanding of marijuana use. Prepare to have your perspectives challenged, your curiosity piqued, and your understanding of this God-created plant transformed.

Learn More About this Topic:

Endocannabinoid System Facebook

Araon’s Instagram @heavyicerx

Episode Timestamps:

(00:02) Christian Perspectives on Marijuana Use

Marijuana, Christianity, and the state are discussed with guests sharing personal experiences and views on government regulation.

(11:02) Perspectives on Marijuana

Jim shares his experience growing up in a rural area where marijuana was stigmatized, but later discovered its widespread use among adults.

(19:19) From Pharmaceuticals to Cannabis

Aaron shares his personal experience with marijuana for chronic pain, limitations of pharmaceuticals, growing own medicine, and promoting natural remedies.

(27:17) Lack of Trust in Medical Industry

Erosion of trust in medical industry, influence of pharmaceutical companies, demonization of marijuana by church and government, importance of education on cannabis.

(31:31) Marijuana, Alcohol, and Control

Personal experiences, war on drugs, and power dynamics surrounding marijuana's legalization and impact on mass incarceration.

(43:13) Marijuana and the Stigma Debate

Nature's purpose for marijuana, stigma and stereotypes, fear-mongering tactics, modern-day perception, and charity donations.

(55:56) Effects of Marijuana on Individuals

Nature's marijuana: personal experiences, benefits and drawbacks, societal judgments, potential for managing anxiety and stress.

(01:02:31) Marijuana's Benefits and Conversation

Participants share experiences with marijuana for anxiety and pain, considering its benefits and religious perspective.

(01:14:07) Discussion on Marijuana and Religious Perspectives

Cannabis and faith are discussed, acknowledging its positive effects on anxiety and the natural goodness of the plant.

(01:24:41) Marijuana

Nature's healing properties of marijuana are explored, challenging stigma and promoting understanding through personal experiences and recommended resources.

(01:29:40) Personal Transformations and New Opportunities

Host's updates: new vehicle, wife's higher-paying job, leaving job, exploring opportunities, homeschooling, coding, coaching, starting podcast. Grateful for brothers' support. Assisting with weight loss and addiction. Emphasizes healthy diet. Love and appreciation for listeners.

(01:34:58) Beliefs, Apparel, and Social Media

The panel discuss cannabis benefits, wearing podcast apparel, and potential pushback for their beliefs.


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97. Christianity Unpacked in "Good Neighbor, Bad Citizen" with Domenic Scarcella

About this Episode

Are we forgetting the rebellious, defiant nature of Jesus? Have we overlooked his active resistance to the political and religious hierarchies of his time, and his challenging calls for us to be good neighbors rather than good citizens? That's what we'll be unpacking in our fascinating conversation with our guest, Domenic , author of the book "Good Neighbor, Bad Citizen". 

 Domenic provides an intriguing reading of Jesus' teachings, bringing to light the elements that often get overlooked in contemporary Christianity. We dissect the Stations of the Cross, Jesus's nonviolent resistance, and how to use his book as a tool for contemplation. 

As we journey through these narratives, we confront the controversial topic of police violence and its relationship to the Christian faith. This episode holds some challenging viewpoints that question the traditional support of law enforcement and military by modern Christians. The non-violent teachings of Jesus and his brutal treatment by the 'good cops' of his day serve as the crux of this discussion. We highlight that violence, be it personal or outsourced, remains a contradiction to the teachings of Jesus, and is thus a sin.

We also carve out time to talk about the unfathomable nature of God, and the significance of the Holy Spirit, offering some new food for thought on the intersection of faith and politics.  Domenic gives us a glimpse into his new sub-stack, extending an invitation to join the ongoing conversation about Christian ethics. As we round off, we reflect on the essence of community, shared faith, and why being both a good neighbor and a bad citizen, as Jesus was, might just be the unconventional perspective we need today. This is one episode that is sure to challenge your perspectives and spark spirited discussions. Tune in, and let's question together!

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Episode Timestamps:

(00:00) Jesus' Way of the Cross

Domenic Scarcella shares insights from his book on being a good neighbor and citizen, using Jesus' teachings and the principle of no King but Christ.

(12:07) Stations of the Cross in Christianity

Early Christians made pilgrimages to Jerusalem, walking the way of the cross, and Jesus chose to be a good neighbor despite brutal treatment by civil authorities.

(26:02) Contemporary Christianity and the Nature of Christ

Contemporary Christianity, faith and presence, the temptation of Christ, Gospels as a guide, Jesus' resilience, God's gifts, the role of the cross in redemption.

(34:28) Cross and Nonviolence

Jesus teaches nonviolence, defiance of hierarchy, and humbling of authorities for redemption.

(45:05) Reflections on the Cross Stations

Veronica's role in Jesus' crucifixion and the importance of women in his ministry, along with the good neighbor model of crime and justice.

(53:35) Correcting Bad Theology, Bible Importance

Jesus corrects bad theology and prioritizes himself over the Bible, as shown in his death by good cops.

(56:59) Good Cops and Violence in Christianity

Police violence and Christianity, good cops led to Jesus' death, the entire system protects the state, Jesus practiced non-violence, early church's stance on non-violence.

(01:07:22) Holy Spirit and Book Promotion

Seeking the Holy Spirit, exploring the intersection of faith and politics, and discussing the harmony between anarchism and Christianity.

(01:11:28) Faith and Community Conversation

Domenic discusses community, shared faith, and how Jesus was a good neighbor and bad citizen in this passionate conversation.


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96. Christian-Palestinian: Unveiling the Obscured Narrative with Daniel Bannoura

About this Episode

Get ready for an insightful and heart-wrenching journey as we chat with Daniel Benora, a Christian Palestinian, who gives us an inside look into the longstanding conflict between Israel and Palestine. With a direct line to the ground reality, Daniel candidly shares the pain and terror experienced by his friends and family in Gaza due to Israeli attacks. Hear the unfiltered narrative of Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, who have been overshadowed in the Western world, as we delve into the complexities of this ongoing strife.

Daniel courageously unravels the obscured narrative of Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, demonstrating the importance of understanding the dynamics of this ongoing strife. How do we stay informed when the Western media narrative leans heavily in favor of one side? The conversation deepens as we probe into the biased portrayal of the Middle East in the media, exposing its racist undertones. Together with Daniel, we dissect the colonial mentality and its aftermath, scrutinizing how it frames the Middle East as backward and violent. We also delve into the implications of Zionism, the British Empire's role in Jewish migration to Palestine, opening up the discussion to the way it's used to justify violence against Palestinians. 

As we draw toward the end of our conversation, we venture into the stormy waters of violence, faith, and pacifism within the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Daniel reveals the inspiring ways Palestinian Christians channel faith into nonviolent resistance against injustice. We wrap up by challenging the misconceptions surrounding God and his people, urging Christians to seek truth, justice, and love over violence and ignorance. 

 Join us as we reveal how the media, the US government, and the Church perpetuate this idea, all the while emphasizing the importance of nuance in understanding this conflict. Here's a chance to challenge your perspectives and possibly transform your understanding of the Israeli-Palestinian plight.

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Episode Timestamps:

(00:02) The Israel-Palestine Occupation

Daniel shares the injustice and violence Palestinians have faced, highlighting the terror and pain caused by Israeli attacks on Christian and Muslim Palestinians.

(10:29) Understanding Gaza and Palestinian Identity

Daniel shares his family's 13-generation history in Bethlehem, discussing the plight of Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Palestine.

(14:26) Christian Palestinian Identity and Ignorance

Daniel Benora's Christian Palestinian experience, ignorance and apathy in the West, and the complicity of media and pastors in creating and perpetuating this ignorance are explored.

(18:39) Western Media's Middle East Bias

We examine Orientalism, Palestinian Christians, and the colonial mentality of the Western world to challenge racism in the Middle East.

(27:34) Influence on Israeli-Palestinian Occupation by Politics, Media, Religion

Zionism's history, anti-Semitism, British Empire, violence against Palestinians, media, US government, Church, and justice for Palestinians discussed.

(39:59) Violence and Pacifism in Israeli-Palestinian Occupation

We examine Hamas' motivations, self-defense ideology, Israel's surprise, and faith identity in a violent context.

(53:13) The Palestinian Christian Perspective

Palestinian Christians discuss nonviolent resistance, US imperialism, preferential option for the poor, and the way of the cross.

(58:41) Misrepresentation of God and His People

We question God's representation in war, reject the distinction between Jews and non-Jews, and explore faith, not lineage, for righteousness and God's love.

(01:03:08) Jesus and the Old Testament

Daniel discusses Christ-centered Bible reading, repentance for violence, and researching the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.


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95. Was Jesus Palestinian? with Jeffery Stevens

About this Episode

Tune in for an insightful conversation with Jeffrey Stevens, an independent journalist and director of the Azarius Project, as we take a hard look at the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory and the impact it's having on the Christian and other communities within these borders. Hear firsthand about the misinformation circulating among Christian Americans and learn about Jeffrey's own transformation from being pro-Israel to acknowledging the impossibility of supporting both Israel and the sanctity of life simultaneously. 

If you’re one of us, or you’re new here, you should know that there has always been a personal journey at the heart of The Bad Roman Project. It’s been one that's demanded a complete overhaul of previous beliefs. A path paved with discomfort while challenging long-held perceptions and demanding an honest reassessment of Christian values. As always, there's so much more to the story than what's on the surface and what’s important is that we talk about it. 

While mainstream media often skews the reality on the ground, our conversation challenges those narratives and scrutinizes the role of the US and Israeli governments in perpetuating the inhumane policies of the occupation. In this uncompromising discourse, we're asking the hard questions, discussing who gets to define terrorism, examining the treatment of Palestinians (both Muslim and Christian), and unlocking the transformative power of relationships to remedy bias in our perspectives.

But our journey doesn't stop there. In this episode, we're bringing the focus back home, because change starts on your doorstep. We discuss the importance of evangelizing in our own neighborhoods and fostering a personal relationship with Jesus. Be prepared for a lively debate on what Jesus' stance would be of his birthland today and the recognition that the world is indeed larger than just the United States. So, buckle up and come along for an enlightening, perhaps life-altering ride with us. 

Connect with Jeffery:

Catholic Workers Project

Azarias Project

Arab American News

Catholic Wordsmith

Episode Timestamps:

1:05 Correct framing as the illegal Occupation vs. the Israel-Palestine Conflict

  • Joe Chadburn Episode

  • Importance of independent journalism

  • Importance of reframing the language we use to describe a topic

  • Unpacking beliefs about Israel in Christian upbringing

  • Used to cover Vatican news until 2009 began covering Israel-Palestine 

4:52 Who is Jeffery Stevens?

8:08 Conviction of USA and Israel as the “good guys” against terrorism

  • Post-9/11 

  • You can respect veterans and still be critical of USA’s imperialism 

  • Jesus Christ would not approve of what is happening in the Middle East no matter who is doing it

  • Governments can often be found to act more in accordance to the definition of terrorism than those we call the name

  • Military bases and proximity to oil reserves

    • Syria

  • Smedley Butler (Joe Chadburn)

  • French Concrete Company sued for assisting ISIS — millions of dollars the US government kept it

  • Should Christians care about what is happening in the birthplace of Christianity?

15:16 Where the End of the Earth Begins article on The Catholic Wordsmith

  • Acts 1:8

    • Popular Christian evangelical verse, we seek to evangelize in frogmen lands and forget to do so in our own neighborhood

    • Christians only on Sundays?

  • “Jesus would have to cross 15 Israeli checkpoints and a 30-foot wall to get to Bethlehem”

  • Americans fail to understand what “occupation” means

  • Palestinian Christian population over time and occupation’s influence on their decline

  • Israeli Occupation forces and desire for all Jewish state, turning Al_Asqua Mosque into a temple

    • Bible bans Jews from 3rd Temple

    • Far-right drive

    • Texas cows flown to Israel

28:10 Who is funding Israel?

  • Palestine of all religions suffer at the hands of this funding under an occupation

  • Trump and Israel

33:44 Jenin [on] the Fourth from Arab American News

48:51 The World is Bigger than the USA


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94. Faith, Fitness, Stewardship with Adam Braud

About this Episode

Imagine having a personal trainer, functional nutritionist, author, and pastor all rolled into one guest. Well, we certainly did! Join us as we get up close and personal with Adam Braud, a man who has dedicated over three decades to Christian ministry and uniquely combines it with his passion for health and fitness. 

Using Adam’s book Faith and Fitness: Integrating Physical Health and Spiritual Growth As we navigate through the discussion, we dissect the pivotal role of lifestyle choices in shaping our holistic health. We unwrap how taking care of our bodies can lead to a more fulfilling life and deeper self-perception and what that has to do with Jesus. Adam broadens our understanding of stewardship, shedding light on its significance beyond mere physicality. Adam provides insight into the significance of disciplined health goals, good sleep, and self-care that goes beyond surface-level or guru-style health advice. 

We wrap up this enlightening episode by debunking health myths and discussing diets and weight loss strategies. Are you curious about the cold plunges or intermittent fasting? Adam's insightful advice on tailoring health strategies and tools to individual needs will clear your doubts. Whether you are a fitness enthusiast or a health journey newbie, this conversation is an excellent guide to caring for your physical body as part of your spiritual growth. So tune in and be inspired to better steward your health!

Connect with Adam Braud:

E-Book

Adam's Website

Instagram

Facebook

1:41 Who is Adam?

  • Personal trainer and pastor

  • Travel to more countries than states

  • E-book Author

3:15 Health Awakening of Covid

7:10 Faith and Fitness

  • Focusing on spiritual growth while ignoring physical health

    • Treating the body like an amusement park vs. a temple

  • Vanity vs. health

    • Fellowshiping over exercise

    • Fear of being perceived as shallow

  • Fat-shaming, being fatphobic

    • Fear of being overweight

  • External and internal confidence

  • Healthspan vs. Lifespan

    • Quality of life vs. quantity of life

  • God’s creation includes us

    • Be a steward of your body

24:40 Diseases of Lifestyle and Affluence

  • COVID shutdown of gyms but not fast food lines

  • Use common sense before blindly trusting the government

  • Eating for nourishment vs. energy

30:50 Three Major Reasons Christians Nelgect Caring for Their Physical Body

  • Poor teaching/discipleship on the topic

    • Focused on winning people to the Lord vs. taking care of the self

    • Paul the “full Gospel”

  • Enternity/inevitability of death and not caring about caring about our bodies

  • Comparison to others and feeling of “it’s too late”

    • Health is a journey and the only way on is to start taking steps

    • Getting 1% better is still getting better

    • Progression is not linear, it compounds, your 100% in a year can be you 150% today

39:29 Living like an unsupervised kid with diet and sleep

  • Proverbs 29:18

    • Where there is no vision people cast off restraint

  • We need to have a vision for our health – it constrains us, and allows us to have direction vs. being all over the map

  • Emotional healing of chocolate, pizza, and beer

    • Want-based vs. need-based

  • Taking responsibility for yourself and your health

  • Discipline is a good thing

    • Joco Willing “discipline equals freedom” – if I am disciplined I have margin to have fun

  • Prioritizing sleep 

  • Daylight savings time and heart attacks

  • Importance of sleep

    • Alezhezimers, dementia, hormones, regulation of systems

    • Mental health diagnosis and sleep

53:48 One-size-fits-all plan for diet?

  • Basic Principles: 

    • Not overeating is one of the best things you can do

    • High-quality foods i.e. whole foods (if it walked on the earth, swam on the see, came out of the ground or a tree) that require some digesting

    • If it’s in a box think twice about it

    • Everyone is an individual and processes things differently

    • Try to keep processed sugars down

  • Prioritize protein 

1:00:27 Intermittent Fasting & Cold Plunging

  • Both are tools in the health space

  • Intermittent fasting can be a stressor

    • Protein shortage with intermittent fasting (protect your muscle mass)

  • Cold Plunge can be great for joint pain

    • Energizing effect because of shock

    • Can have testosterone and brown fat effects over time

  • Nothing in the health space is a cure-all end-all – it’s not secret knowledge, don’t fall into the trap of guru knowledge and snake oil

1:11:05 Where to connect with Adam


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93. Social Security Free American Living without a Birth Certificate with Keturah Lamb

About this Episode

Ever thought about life without a social security number? Keturah Lamb is a fourth-generation member of a family choosing to exist outside of the traditional system, Keturah's stories reveal how she and her siblings have cultivated creativity, resourcefulness, and resilience to build the lives they want. She sheds light on how to live a good American dream life without being part of the system, and how it has shaped their worldview and relationships. 

We explore Keturah's unique life journey, from her grandpa's stories to her own travels, to her work as a seamstress, writer, public speaker, and more. Listen as she opens up about her projects that bring people together, her stint teaching hand-sewing and embroidery at an off-grid nature preserve, Turtle Island, and how she uses her experiences to connect with people on a deeper level.

Keturah's faith and philosophy form the foundation of her lifestyle, and she talks about her Living Room Academy, which aims to empower women with essential life skills, guiding them towards empowerment. 

She shares her nuanced and wise-beyond-her-years thoughts on anarchism, mob mentality, the monopoly on violence, and an active pacifism she sees at the root of true anarchy. From real-life issues to facilitating meaningful shifts in perspectives over meals in her home, Keturah’s experiences are a testament to the vigor of an unconventional way of living. So, if you've been longing for a refreshing view on life, prepare to see the world through a different lens with Keturah Lamb.

Connect with Keturah Lamb:

Twitterr (X) — @KeturahAbigal

Instagram — @KeturahAbigal

Social Porcupine

The Girl Who Doesn’t Exist

Livingroom Academy

Episode Timestamps:

01:35 Who is Keturah?

  • Fourth generation without a birth certificate or social security number

  • Public Speaker and thinker on how to live the American dream without a social security number

03:30 Working in America without a Social Security Number

  • Lean on creativity

  • Dare to think differently

  • Working jobs and projects vs. submitting to corporate America

  • Taxes?

  • Flexibility of lifestyle

  • Her travel adventures

  • Questioning her family’s lifestyle before committing to it

08:43 The Social Porcupine

18:14 The Girl Who Doesn’t Exist

30:23 Reality of Humans vs. Hate-filled Social Media

  • Covid Attitudes

  • Barefoot protest

33:10 Living Room Academy

  • Spreading hope to the rest of the world

  • Traveling and making home where you’re at

    • Virtue of Hospitality

    • Remaining soft without being naive

  • Hand sewing, discussions, Christianity, redefining empowerment, being comfortable with who you are

38:42 We should free mobs instead of cults

  • Mob vs. cult

    • Joining a tribe

  • Mob mentality

    • Being a Christian and antiestablishment

    • Being called a heretic, a witch vs. who actually ends up causing harm

    • Fear-based thinking when confronted with someone who thinks differently

  • Envy based fear

  • Southern Baptist

  • Having patience for people’s transformation in thinking

  • Ex-pentecostal pastor

46:04 Does anyone in Keturah’s family think they are crazy?

  • Encouraging debate and critical thinking for yourself vs. handing down doctrine

  • Facebook Uncle Debates

51:22 Has she always been No King but Christ?

  • Theological understanding is that Jesus is anti-tyranny

    • Romans 13 is not saying it’s good to have a king and pay taxes

    • If that is so then the Revolutionary War was wrong, colonists should have paid tax

  • A true pacifist is an anarchist even if you don’t realize it at heart

    • Anarchist without pacifism is a violent expression and we don’t need it

    • Don’t say you're an anarchist unless you can do it in a peaceful and pleasant way

  • Laws are backed by the threat of violence

    • Who do we place our faith in? That’s whose laws we are called to follow

  • Being a pacifist is active, it takes a lot of strength, determination, and courage to stand in your faith vs. your fear

1:01:24 Twitter (x) rules of engagement in debates for sanity

  • “Real Christians don’t support tyranny” thread

    • Humor, fact, and creative insults without insulting to detract

  • Don’t read people’s social media books (Facebook problems)

  • Engaging Mormons over meals

    • How to tell someone they're an anarchist

  • Power of hospitality and curiosity

  • Everything sounds better with good food

1:11:30 Connect with Keturah Lamb


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92. War, Policing & Digital Activism with Jason Bassler

About this Episode

Get ready, as we are joined by Jason Bassler founder of The Free Thought Project and Police the Police for a candid conversation about political corruption, digital activism, and the profound impacts and reach of war. Listen in as Jason shares his transition from libertarian to anarchist, spurred by his experiences during the Occupy Wall Street which also helps catalyze his subsequent dedication to police accountability. He offers an intriguing behind-the-scenes look at the Free Thought Project, its evolution, its unexpected shutdown on major social media platforms in 2012 and its uphill rebuild.

We don't shy away from the hard truths in this episode. We scrutinize the alarming effects of war, corruption, and propaganda on our society. This includes a frank discussion on the startling death toll from the post-9/11 war on terror and the profits made by US contractors. We take a deep look at the Ukrainian War as a potential proxy war, the implications of the military-industrial complex, and the ripple effects of these conflicts across different generations. The power of the internet in how different generations are countering these narratives is a key focus.

Lastly, we expose the uncomfortable realities about the US' militarism, its lack of accountability for war crimes, and the fleeting anti-war stance when candidates ascend to power (and their subsequent escalation of conflicts once they have that power). From Lockheed Martin's sponsorship of a pride parade to the $2300 expat exit fee from a free country, we lay bare the government’s blatant hypocrisy. Jason's reflections on the strength of the internet and the value of criticism as a sign of tough love conclude our conversation on a hopeful note. This episode promises to be a thought-provoking, no-holds-barred exploration into our political landscape and the power of digital activism. Don't miss it!

Jason Bassler:

Jason’s Personal Links

Police the Police Links

Free Thought Project Links

Episode Timestamps:

 2:04 Who is Jason Bassler?

11:00 Power of a Platform 

  • Contrarian thinking and advertisements

  • Chasing a dollar

  • Authenticity, consistency, and persistence 

  • Longevity of building your own platform

  • Bending a knee for a dollar

  • Authenticity repeated

  • Donald Trump 

20:30 Would society fall into chaos without the police?

  • Police The Police (Facebook)

  • George Floy, Covid Restriction Enforcements

  • Monopoly on legal violence

  • Security force in a voluntary society

  • Dale Brown – Threat Management Center

    • Privatized security in Detroit

  • St. Louis Police Office on Bad Roman

  • Sheriff from AZ on Bad Roman 

26:29  War as an Export

34:37 Exhaustion of Perpetual Wars on the Public Psyche

  •  People born post-9/11 have not been in a war

    • Has war become normalized? 

    • Are younger generations rejecting war?

  • Indoctrination of government propaganda from a young age

  • Are boomers the most propagandized generation?

    • Has the internet taken the potency out of government propaganda?

41:36 Realities of War and Its Perpetrators 

1:01:00 Connect with Jason


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