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113. From Mormon LDS to Freedom in Christ: Unveiling Lies in Medicine, Government, and Religion

About this Episode

In this episode of the Bad Roman podcast, host Craig Harguess speaks with Claire Dalton, the host of the Clarity podcast. Claire shares her journey of leaving the LDS Church, her battle with chronic Lyme disease, and her views on the influence of government and institutional corruption. This episode explores faith, freedom, and the pursuit of truth, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of these issues.

Claire begins by discussing her background, including her upbringing in Utah within the mainstream LDS Church. She delves into the cultural and religious environment she grew up in and the factors that led her to question and eventually leave the LDS Church. Claire also shares her professional experiences as a farmer, nonprofit president, and sales representative, explaining how these roles have shaped her perspectives and contributed to her current projects.

A significant portion of the conversation addresses common misconceptions about Mormonism, particularly the belief that polygamy is a central tenet of the faith. Claire provides historical context and evidence to challenge these mainstream LDS teachings, arguing that the original teachings of Joseph Smith did not endorse polygamy. She also highlights the experiences of those who leave the LDS Church to follow Christ, differentiating them from those who leave religion entirely, and discusses the importance of creating platforms to share their stories.

Claire's personal and family struggles with chronic Lyme disease are another focal point of the episode. She details the symptoms, misdiagnoses, and the long journey to finding the correct diagnosis for both herself and her mother. The conversation delves into the controversial origins of Lyme disease, including theories about government involvement and bioweapon experiments. Claire discusses the historical context, such as Operation Paperclip and the release of weaponized ticks, and criticizes the medical system for its inability to properly diagnose and treat chronic illnesses like Lyme disease. She shares her journey of seeking alternative treatments and emphasizes the importance of partnering with God for healing.

The episode also explores the influence of government and institutional corruption. Claire argues that government control has infiltrated numerous sectors, including the food industry, education, the medical system, and even religious institutions. She provides examples of how this corruption manifests and its effects on society. Claire argues that statism is inherently satanic, highlighting how government control contradicts Christian teachings and discussing the importance of recognizing and resisting this influence to live a life aligned with Christ's teachings.

Faith and freedom are central themes throughout the episode. Claire and Craig emphasize the significance of the message "No King but Christ" in contemporary Christianity, discussing how this principle guides their lives and the importance of prioritizing Christ over state and institutional allegiances. Claire shares her vision for creating authentic Christian communities that are not bound by traditional church structures, advocating for home churches and genuine fellowship centered around Christ's teachings.

Listeners will gain insights into the personal and spiritual challenges faced by those who leave the LDS Church and seek to follow Christ. They will learn about the controversial origins of Lyme disease, the failures of the medical system, and the importance of seeking alternative treatments. The episode also provides an understanding of the influence of government in various aspects of life and its implications for personal freedom and societal well-being. Finally, listeners will discover the importance of prioritizing Christ over state and institutional allegiances and the value of building authentic Christian communities.

This episode explores the intersections of faith, health, and societal structures, providing listeners with insights and encouraging them to question and explore their own beliefs and experiences. Claire's storytelling, combined with Craig's questions, makes this a valuable listen for anyone interested in the complexities of faith, freedom, and truth.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

1:04 Guest Introduction

  • Claire Dalton shares her background: raised in Utah, former LDS member, farmer, nonprofit president, and sales representative.

  • Claire's journey from mainstream LDS to her current faith and projects.

2:22 Entanglement of Churches with the State

  • Discussion on how the events of 2020 revealed the deep entanglement of many churches with the state.

  • Claire's observations on the disillusionment of many Christians with their churches during this period.

1:41 Claire's Personal Journey

  • Claire's story of leaving the LDS church and starting her podcast.

  • The importance of sharing stories of those who leave the LDS church to follow Christ.

5:28 Misconceptions about Mormonism 

  • Claire addresses common misconceptions about Mormonism, including the belief that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy.

  • Historical evidence and personal beliefs that challenge mainstream LDS teachings on polygamy.

26:35 The Impact of Chronic Illness

  • Claire's personal and family experiences with chronic Lyme disease.

  • The political and controversial history of Lyme disease, including its origins and the government's role.

30:18 Critique of the Medical System

  • Discussion on the failures of the medical system to address chronic illnesses effectively.

  • The role of vaccines and other medical interventions in exacerbating health issues.

53:04 Statism and Its Influence

  • Claire and Craig discuss the pervasive influence of statism in various aspects of life, including food, education, and healthcare.

  • The idea that statism is inherently satanic and contrary to Christian teachings.

59:20 Closing Remarks

  • Seek the truth and question the systems they are part of

  • The importance of community and supporting those who are chronically ill or marginalized.

  • Craig and Claire reflect on the importance of living out Christian values authentically


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101. Mormon Teachings and Anarchy: Uncovering the Path to Freedom

When Casey Beres walked away from the Mormon Church, he didn't just leave behind a congregation; he discovered a tapestry of anarchy and voluntaryism hidden within its teachings. In this profound discussion, we find unexpected solidarity with anarchist thought, as Casey unveils how the Book of Mormon's scriptures and doctrines mirror the principles of societal autonomy and individual freedom. Our exchange traverses religious and ideological frontiers, inviting both Mormons and non-Mormons to embrace the underlying values that bind us together as a global family. 

The conversation shifts as we contemplate the personal changes spurred by political disillusionment and debates over the constitution, intensified by the pandemic. As we consider the emotional impact of mandates on both individuals and communities, we delve into the debris of societal pressures. In doing so, we discover a widespread desire for a support network and a community that values individual choice, and we explore the role of authority and governance from a perspective of spiritual enlightenment, not political will.

Wrapping up, we look beyond the horizon of today's interpretations of LDS texts, questioning traditional views on government, war, and America's place in divine providence. We explore the notion of modern slavery within our own societal structures and discuss the frustrations of many modern Christians with the current state of affairs. 

We question divine providence in the American founding and probe the implications of the government's hand in modern slavery. Our quest for understanding takes us from the battlefield of American history to the heart of Christian anarchy, culminating in a call to action for the Mormon community to consider the anarchy threaded within their beliefs. Whether your interest lies in faith, freedom, or the crossroads where they meet, join us for a stimulating conversation that promises to challenge and enlighten.

Connect with the Casey Beres:

Substack: mackenziesspleen.substack.com

Bandcamp: Potbelly MacKraken

Key Moments:

00:02 Anarchy and the Book of Mormon

  • Introduction of Casey Beres to discuss anarchy in the Book of Mormon context.

  • Exploration of Casey's journey from the Mormon Church to anarchist insights.

  • Discussion on the resonance of anarchy and volunteerism with broader anarchist community.

  • Emphasis on commonalities that unite humans beyond individual beliefs.

  • Importance of open dialogue for understanding and breaking down barriers.

08:04 Churches and Conversion to Anarchy

  • Personal reflections on church, faith, and non-traditional worship.

  • Preference for intimate gatherings over structured church services.

  • Influence of anarchy on views of authority and community.

  • Disconnection felt in family-centric church settings.

  • Journey from political apathy to anarchy, inspired by figures like Ron Paul and Michael Malice.

18:27 COVID Horror Stories and Vaccine Mandates

  • Personal impact of COVID-19 mandates on an individual with Tourette syndrome.

  • Challenges of job loss and societal exclusion due to mandates.

  • Importance of support networks during challenging times.

  • Conflicts between state and federal regulations during the pandemic.

  • Reflections on varied societal and political responses to the pandemic.

25:12 Understanding the LDS Scriptural Canon

  • Exploration of anarchy in Mormon scripture, addressing misconceptions.

  • Clarification of 'D&C' and other foundational Mormon texts.

  • Examination of ancient and modern societies in Mormon scripture through an anarchistic lens.

  • Anarchistic interpretation of scriptural events like the flood.

32:13 Anarchy in the Book of Mormon

  • Inspirational similarities between the Bible, Book of Mormon, and D&C.

  • Discussion on societies transitioning to democracy and anarchy in the Book of Mormon.

  • Analysis of anarchy and voluntarism in the Book of Mormon narratives.

  • Challenges in reconciling certain D&C sections with anarchistic principles.

39:28 Government and Anarchy in LDS Scriptures

  • Examination of contradictions in Doctrine and Covenants 134 regarding government.

  • Analysis of government's role in violating individual rights despite claims of protection.

  • Discussion on the compatibility of divine endorsement with flawed human government.

  • Reflection on implications for libertarians, anarchists, and constitutional conservatives.

49:43 Beliefs on God, Constitution, and Slavery

  • Relationship between religion, nationalism, and government in LDS context.

  • Debate on divine inspiration of the U.S. Constitution and America's founding.

  • Comparison of historical chattel slavery to modern governmental control.

  • Discussion on advocating for change and the irony of 'leaving the country'.

59:30 Frustration of Modern Christians and Anarchism

  • Reflection on the U.S.'s history of conflict and personal transition in political beliefs.

  • Exploration of Christian anarchy and Jesus' teachings against hierarchical control.

  • Critique of religious and political leadership's misuse of influence.

  • Biblical perspective on authority and leadership contrary to oppressive power structures.

01:09:07 Promoting Anarchy in the Mormon Community

  • Challenges and goals in introducing anarchism to the Mormon community.

  • Engagement with influential figures and feedback from church members.

  • Importance of gradual change, personal humility, and the impact of the Bad Roman Project.

  • Encouragement for others to contribute to dialogue through various platforms.

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