129. Patriot or Saint with Brandon Kroll

About this Episode

Unveiling the Hidden: How Occult Practices Shape Our World and Faith

Ever wondered why the world seems increasingly chaotic? Why traditional Christian values appear to be eroding? Brandon Kroll, host of the Manna Daily Podcast, joins us to peel back the layers of our reality and expose the hidden forces at play. This eye-opening conversation challenges everything you thought you knew about faith, government, and the occult.

A Journey Beyond the Surface

Brandon's path to uncovering hidden truths began early. As a contrarian by nature, he always questioned the status quo: "I've always been very much the contrarian. I've always been somebody that's like, okay, that's cute, but what else is missing in this history book?"

This curiosity led him to explore topics often overlooked or dismissed by mainstream Christianity. From the Book of Enoch to the alien question, Brandon delved into areas many consider taboo.

But why venture into such controversial territory? Brandon explains: "What I'm trying to do is put myself out there, go behind enemy lines, acquire intel so that we better understand our Bibles, and we better understand the world that's at large."

The Kabbalah Connection

One of the most startling revelations Brandon shares is the pervasive influence of Kabbalah in our world. Far from being an obscure Jewish mystical tradition, Kabbalah's tenets have seeped into many aspects of modern life – including Christianity.

Brandon breaks it down:"Kabbalah is already saying, love the things of this world, earth and eternity. That's fine. God and government, okay, Christ and country, perfect. Scripture and science, you got it. But if you try to say, no government, that's a problem."

This blending of spiritual and worldly power is at the heart of many issues we face today. It's a subtle deception that's led many Christians astray without them even realizing it.

The Government-Occult Nexus

If you've ever wondered about the connection between government and occult practices, you're not alone. Brandon provides compelling evidence of this link: "Ephesians 6:12 with the Geneva Bible... It says, 'for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against worldly governors... against spiritual wickedness, which are in high places.'"

Interestingly, the phrase "worldly governors" was removed in the King James Version. This omission speaks volumes about the potential manipulation of scripture to serve political ends.

Rethinking Our Approach to Faith

Brandon's insights challenge us to reconsider how we approach our faith and engage with the world. He emphasizes the importance of personal study and discernment: "Don't just listen to the holy man that tells you what it says... Make it personal."

This call to individual responsibility echoes throughout our conversation. It's a reminder that true faith isn't about blindly following traditions or earthly authorities, but about seeking a genuine connection with the divine.

Practical Steps for Awakening

So how can we apply these revelations to our lives? Brandon offers several actionable strategies:

1. Question everything, especially long-held beliefs and traditions.

2. Study scripture in its original context, looking beyond modern translations.

3. Be aware of the subtle ways worldly philosophies can infiltrate our faith.

4. Focus on living out the basic tenets of Christianity rather than getting caught up in denominational disputes.

5. Recognize the difference between being a "patriot" and a "saint" – you can't serve two masters.

What We Learned About Hidden Influences

This conversation with Brandon Kroll opens our eyes to the unseen forces shaping our world and faith. It challenges us to:

• Look beyond surface-level interpretations of scripture and world events.

• Question the motives behind governmental and religious institutions.

• Seek personal understanding rather than relying solely on authority figures.

• Recognize the subtle ways occult practices have influenced modern Christianity.

Most importantly, it reminds us that true faith isn't about conforming to worldly systems but aligning ourselves with divine truth.

Ready to dive deeper into these hidden realities? Listen to the full episode for more mind-bending insights. And remember, in a world of deception, seeking truth is more important than ever. Stay vigilant, stay curious, and most of all, stay true to your faith and don’t forget “no king but Christ.”

Connect with Brandon Kroll:

• Manna Daily Podcast Youtube

• Manna Daily Podcast Spotify

Books Refrenced:

1. Bloody Zion by Edward Hendry

2. Rulers of Evil by Tupper Saussy

3. Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola

4. New Age Versions by G.A. Riplinger

Bible Verses Referenced:

1. Matthew 15:1-11 - Discusses man-made traditions in contrast to the commandments of God.

2. Mark 7:1-13 - Refers to man-made traditions versus God's commandments.

3. 1 Corinthians 11:2 - Mentions the traditions delivered by Paul.

4. Ephesians 6:12 - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

5. Philippians 3:20 - "But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ."

6. John 18:36 - "My kingdom is not of this world."

7. 1 Samuel 8:18 - "When the day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day."

8. Hosea 8:4 - "They set up kings without my consent; they choose princes without my approval."

9. Isaiah 5:20 - "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil."

10. Hosea 4:6 - "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge."

11. Genesis 6:4 - Refers to the sons of God and the Nephilim.

12. 1 John 3:1 - "Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God."

Episode Timestamps:

(1:04) Brandon's Background and Journey

• Adoption story and educational experiences

• Encounters with contrarian thinking and questioning authority

• Exploration of hidden history and occult practices

(5:57) Brandon's Political and Spiritual Evolution

• First voting experience in 2016

• Shift in perspective during 2020 elections

• Conviction about church practices during the pandemic

(13:49) Pushback and Growth in Ministry

• Experiences with criticism and audience growth

• Concept of being "over the target" in truth-telling

(17:44) The Concept of Sin and Missing the Mark

• Discussion on the meaning of sin and its relation to being on target

• From Pulpit to Podcast: Exodus from traditional church teachings in podcasts

(19:17) Traditions of Men in Scripture

• Analysis of the phrase "traditions of men" in the New Testament

• Connection to Kabbalah and occult practices

(25:19) Occult Influences in Government and Religion

• Discussion on the reality of occult practices in politics

• Recommended books for further research (see below for list)

(47:55) Bible Translations and Interpretation

• Critique of King James Version and other translations

• Importance of understanding historical context and original languages

(54:43) Living Out Biblical Basics

• Emphasis on practicing core Christian principles

• Critique of denominational divisions and political entanglements

(1:03:29) Early Church Practices and Modern Applications

• Discussion on vetting processes in early Christianity

• Implications for modern church participation

(1:05:30) Closing Thoughts and Resources

• Information on Brandon's podcast Mana Daily Podcast and where to find his work

• Invitation for future collaborations

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When Casey Beres walked away from the Mormon Church, he didn't just leave behind a congregation; he discovered a tapestry of anarchy and voluntaryism hidden within its teachings. In this profound discussion, we find unexpected solidarity with anarchist thought, as Casey unveils how the Book of Mormon's scriptures and doctrines mirror the principles of societal autonomy and individual freedom. Our exchange traverses religious and ideological frontiers, inviting both Mormons and non-Mormons to embrace the underlying values that bind us together as a global family. 

The conversation shifts as we contemplate the personal changes spurred by political disillusionment and debates over the constitution, intensified by the pandemic. As we consider the emotional impact of mandates on both individuals and communities, we delve into the debris of societal pressures. In doing so, we discover a widespread desire for a support network and a community that values individual choice, and we explore the role of authority and governance from a perspective of spiritual enlightenment, not political will.

Wrapping up, we look beyond the horizon of today's interpretations of LDS texts, questioning traditional views on government, war, and America's place in divine providence. We explore the notion of modern slavery within our own societal structures and discuss the frustrations of many modern Christians with the current state of affairs. 

We question divine providence in the American founding and probe the implications of the government's hand in modern slavery. Our quest for understanding takes us from the battlefield of American history to the heart of Christian anarchy, culminating in a call to action for the Mormon community to consider the anarchy threaded within their beliefs. Whether your interest lies in faith, freedom, or the crossroads where they meet, join us for a stimulating conversation that promises to challenge and enlighten.

Connect with the Casey Beres:

Substack: mackenziesspleen.substack.com

Bandcamp: Potbelly MacKraken

Key Moments:

00:02 Anarchy and the Book of Mormon

• Introduction of Casey Beres to discuss anarchy in the Book of Mormon context.

• Exploration of Casey's journey from the Mormon Church to anarchist insights.

• Discussion on the resonance of anarchy and volunteerism with broader anarchist community.

• Emphasis on commonalities that unite humans beyond individual beliefs.

• Importance of open dialogue for understanding and breaking down barriers.

08:04 Churches and Conversion to Anarchy

• Personal reflections on church, faith, and non-traditional worship.

• Preference for intimate gatherings over structured church services.

• Influence of anarchy on views of authority and community.

• Disconnection felt in family-centric church settings.

• Journey from political apathy to anarchy, inspired by figures like Ron Paul and Michael Malice.

18:27 COVID Horror Stories and Vaccine Mandates

• Personal impact of COVID-19 mandates on an individual with Tourette syndrome.

• Challenges of job loss and societal exclusion due to mandates.

• Importance of support networks during challenging times.

• Conflicts between state and federal regulations during the pandemic.

• Reflections on varied societal and political responses to the pandemic.

25:12 Understanding the LDS Scriptural Canon

• Exploration of anarchy in Mormon scripture, addressing misconceptions.

• Clarification of 'D&C' and other foundational Mormon texts.

• Examination of ancient and modern societies in Mormon scripture through an anarchistic lens.

• Anarchistic interpretation of scriptural events like the flood.

32:13 Anarchy in the Book of Mormon

• Inspirational similarities between the Bible, Book of Mormon, and D&C.

• Discussion on societies transitioning to democracy and anarchy in the Book of Mormon.

• Analysis of anarchy and voluntarism in the Book of Mormon narratives.

• Challenges in reconciling certain D&C sections with anarchistic principles.

39:28 Government and Anarchy in LDS Scriptures

• Examination of contradictions in Doctrine and Covenants 134 regarding government.

• Analysis of government's role in violating individual rights despite claims of protection.

• Discussion on the compatibility of divine endorsement with flawed human government.

• Reflection on implications for libertarians, anarchists, and constitutional conservatives.

49:43 Beliefs on God, Constitution, and Slavery

• Relationship between religion, nationalism, and government in LDS context.

• Debate on divine inspiration of the U.S. Constitution and America's founding.

• Comparison of historical chattel slavery to modern governmental control.

• Discussion on advocating for change and the irony of 'leaving the country'.

59:30 Frustration of Modern Christians and Anarchism

• Reflection on the U.S.'s history of conflict and personal transition in political beliefs.

• Exploration of Christian anarchy and Jesus' teachings against hierarchical control.

• Critique of religious and political leadership's misuse of influence.

• Biblical perspective on authority and leadership contrary to oppressive power structures.

01:09:07 Promoting Anarchy in the Mormon Community

• Challenges and goals in introducing anarchism to the Mormon community.

• Engagement with influential figures and feedback from church members.

• Importance of gradual change, personal humility, and the impact of the Bad Roman Project.

• Encouragement for others to contribute to dialogue through various platforms.

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