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131. Military Service and God’s Will: A Veteran’s Journey with Steve O'Connor

About this Episode

In this eye-opening episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, host Craig Harguess sits down with Steve O'Connor, a former Marine who shares his powerful journey from military service to embracing a Christ-centered life. Steve's story challenges conventional wisdom about patriotism, military service, and what it truly means to follow Jesus.

The Allure of Military Service

Steve's path to the military was paved with family tradition and societal expectations. Growing up in a family with deep military roots, he was captivated by the idea of serving his country from a young age. The events of 9/11 further solidified his resolve to join the armed forces.

"I wasn't a great student and so they, they always say, oh well, you know, if you're not great in school, the military is perfect place for you," Steve recalls. This common narrative, coupled with family pride and a desire to defend his country, led him to enlist in the Marine Corps.

Key Insight: Many young people are drawn to military service through a combination of family expectations, societal pressure, and a genuine desire to serve. However, this decision often comes without a full understanding of the implications.

The Reality of Military Life

Steve's experiences in the military were far from the romanticized version often portrayed in recruitment ads. He deployed three times in four years, missing significant milestones in his family life, including the birth of his son. The physical and emotional toll was immense:

  • Broken back

  • Dislocated shoulders

  • Knee injuries

  • Sleep apnea

  • PTSD and anxiety

"I scream at night. I don't remember my dreams," Steve shares, highlighting the lasting impact of his service.

Challenge: Veterans often struggle with the disconnect between their expectations of military service and the harsh realities they face. This can lead to profound physical and emotional challenges that persist long after their service ends.

A Spiritual Awakening

The turning point in Steve's journey came during a Memorial Day celebration in 2017. As he recited the Pledge of Allegiance, he had a sudden realization:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And I said that first line, I was like, what? In my brain, I'm just like, what in the hell am I doing? What is this garbage I am saying?"

This moment sparked a deep reevaluation of his beliefs and values, leading Steve to question the relationship between his faith and his allegiance to the state.

Key Takeaway: True spiritual growth often requires us to challenge deeply ingrained beliefs and societal norms. Steve's experience shows how a single moment of clarity can set in motion a profound transformation.

Redefining Patriotism and Faith

As Steve delved deeper into the teachings of Jesus, he began to see a stark contrast between Christ's message of peace and love and the violence inherent in military service. He came to a powerful conclusion:

"God does not want your son [or daughter] joining the military”

This realization has led Steve to approach conversations about military service with honesty and a focus on the teachings of Christ. He now sees his role as helping others, especially young people considering or in military service, to understand the full implications of that choice.

Practical Advice: When discussing military service with others, especially young people, Steve aims to:

  1. Be honest about the physical and emotional toll of service

  2. Encourage reflection on how military service aligns (or doesn't) with one's faith and values

  3. Present alternative ways to serve one's community and country

The Ongoing Journey

Steve's transformation is still a work in progress. He grapples with how to live out his newfound convictions in a community deeply entrenched in military culture. His story serves as a powerful reminder that true faith often requires us to challenge societal norms and expectations.

What We Learned About Faith, Patriotism, and Service

Steve's journey from soldier to peacemaker offers valuable lessons for all of us:

  1. Question societal norms: Don't accept traditional narratives about patriotism and service without critical examination.

  2. Align actions with beliefs: Regularly evaluate whether your actions truly reflect your core values and faith.

  3. Embrace transformation: Be open to changing long-held beliefs when confronted with new insights or spiritual growth.

  4. Share your story: Your experiences, even (or especially) the challenging ones, can help others navigate their own journeys.

Steve's story challenges us to reconsider what it truly means to serve God and our fellow humans. It reminds us that sometimes, the most patriotic act is to question and challenge the status quo in pursuit of a more peaceful, Christ-centered world.

Are you ready to reevaluate your own beliefs about patriotism, service, and faith? Listen to the full episode to dive deeper into Steve's transformative journey and discover how it might inspire changes in your own life.

Episode Timestamps:

(0:53) Steve's background and military service

  • Family history of military service

  • Influence of 9/11 on Steve's decision to join the military

  • Multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan

(5:20) Steve's religious background and conversion

  • Raised with mixed Catholic and Christian Science influences

  • Became a Christian through his wife's influence

(7:27) Steve's military career and deployments

(11:48) Steve's awakening to the issues with military service

  • Realization during a Memorial Day celebration in 2017

  • Recognition of the American flag as a "golden calf"

(14:09) Discussion on current military recruitment challenges

  • Declining recruitment numbers and possible reasons

  • Steve's perspective on the lack of active conflicts

(21:23) Steve's struggle with past actions and beliefs

  • Grappling with the idea that military service wasn't God's will

  • Impact on mental health and PTSD

  • Reference to 1st Samuel 8 (Bible Verse)

(29:13) Steve's family life and the impact of military service

  • Missing his son's birth during deployment

  • Challenges in reconnecting with family after long absences

(42:52) Conversations with others about military service

  • Approach to discussing military realities with potential recruits

  • Balancing honesty about hardships with respect for beliefs

(50:36) Steve's evolving perspective on patriotism and symbolism

  • Discomfort with excessive flag displays and national anthems

  • Recognizing the brainwashing aspect of patriotic rituals

  • Blue Angels are still cool though

(59:36) Conclusion and future plans

  • Encouragement for Steve to start writing about his experiences

  • Potential for future discussions on the podcast.


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92. War, Policing & Digital Activism with Jason Bassler

About this Episode

Get ready, as we are joined by Jason Bassler founder of The Free Thought Project and Police the Police for a candid conversation about political corruption, digital activism, and the profound impacts and reach of war. Listen in as Jason shares his transition from libertarian to anarchist, spurred by his experiences during the Occupy Wall Street which also helps catalyze his subsequent dedication to police accountability. He offers an intriguing behind-the-scenes look at the Free Thought Project, its evolution, its unexpected shutdown on major social media platforms in 2012 and its uphill rebuild.

We don't shy away from the hard truths in this episode. We scrutinize the alarming effects of war, corruption, and propaganda on our society. This includes a frank discussion on the startling death toll from the post-9/11 war on terror and the profits made by US contractors. We take a deep look at the Ukrainian War as a potential proxy war, the implications of the military-industrial complex, and the ripple effects of these conflicts across different generations. The power of the internet in how different generations are countering these narratives is a key focus.

Lastly, we expose the uncomfortable realities about the US' militarism, its lack of accountability for war crimes, and the fleeting anti-war stance when candidates ascend to power (and their subsequent escalation of conflicts once they have that power). From Lockheed Martin's sponsorship of a pride parade to the $2300 expat exit fee from a free country, we lay bare the government’s blatant hypocrisy. Jason's reflections on the strength of the internet and the value of criticism as a sign of tough love conclude our conversation on a hopeful note. This episode promises to be a thought-provoking, no-holds-barred exploration into our political landscape and the power of digital activism. Don't miss it!

Jason Bassler:

Jason’s Personal Links

Police the Police Links

Free Thought Project Links

Episode Timestamps:

 2:04 Who is Jason Bassler?

11:00 Power of a Platform 

  • Contrarian thinking and advertisements

  • Chasing a dollar

  • Authenticity, consistency, and persistence 

  • Longevity of building your own platform

  • Bending a knee for a dollar

  • Authenticity repeated

  • Donald Trump 

20:30 Would society fall into chaos without the police?

  • Police The Police (Facebook)

  • George Floy, Covid Restriction Enforcements

  • Monopoly on legal violence

  • Security force in a voluntary society

  • Dale Brown – Threat Management Center

    • Privatized security in Detroit

  • St. Louis Police Office on Bad Roman

  • Sheriff from AZ on Bad Roman 

26:29  War as an Export

34:37 Exhaustion of Perpetual Wars on the Public Psyche

  •  People born post-9/11 have not been in a war

    • Has war become normalized? 

    • Are younger generations rejecting war?

  • Indoctrination of government propaganda from a young age

  • Are boomers the most propagandized generation?

    • Has the internet taken the potency out of government propaganda?

41:36 Realities of War and Its Perpetrators 

1:01:00 Connect with Jason


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