111. God vs MAGA: The Dangers of Mixing Christianity with American Nationalism

About this Episode

What happens when political figures are compared to religious icons? Join us on the Bad Roman Podcast as we explore this provocative question with our special guest, singer-songwriter Josh Nichols. In this episode, we dive into the unsettling comparisons between Donald Trump and Jesus, especially during election season on social media.

Comparing Donald Trump to Jesus is not just misguided—it's deeply problematic. Through his powerful song "God vs MAGA," Josh challenges the troubling idolatry of political figures and sheds light on the toxic rhetoric that equates Trump with Christ. We'll explore how these false comparisons harm our faith and divert our focus from the true essence of Jesus' teachings.

American nationalism has often cloaked itself in the guise of Christianity, but what does this mean for our spiritual integrity? We dissect the disturbing tendency to merge faith with national pride, examining how this threatens to turn patriotism into idolatry. Josh, through his song "God vs MAGA," unpacks the manipulation of religious beliefs by political entities and how such actions lead to a misguided faith in political leaders. Together, we scrutinize the parallels between Trump's portrayal and the biblical figure Barabbas, emphasizing the crucial need to discern truth amidst the political noise.

We highlight the conflict between personal rights and biblical principles of humility and selflessness by unpacking the theological implications and contrasting earthly citizenship with eternal values. Josh’s poignant lyrics, including the line "God doesn't want to make America great again," serve as a stark reminder that our allegiance should be to God's kingdom, not a nation.

Critical thinking and independent thought are crucial in navigating the noise of corporate media and political propaganda. We discuss the liberating power of relinquishing control to faith and how critical thinking fosters confident, independent opinions. From addressing the idolatry of political beliefs to critiquing the hypocrisy within pro-life stances, this episode is a call to elevate our faith above nationalism and strive for a greatness rooted in God's infinite and unconditional love, not a nation-state’s past.

We wrap up with personal reflections and broader societal critiques, highlighting the tension between national identity and spiritual integrity. Join us for this eye-opening dialogue that underscores the ultimate greatness found in God's kingdom and His unconditional love.

Connect with Josh Nichols:

• Tik Tok

• Spotify

• Apple Music

• Personal Instagram 

• Josh's Band - More Than This Instagram

• Tidal

• YouTube

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

(00:00:02) God vs MAGA

• Comparison of Donald Trump to Jesus and its implications

• Insights from Josh Nichols on political manipulation

• Analysis of Trump's portrayal and parallels with Barabbas

• Discussion on Josh's song "God vs MAGA"

(00:09:37) Jesus, Nationalism, and Idolatry

• Examination of the blending of Christianity and American nationalism

• Discussion on the theological implications of national pride

• Insights into the idolatry of associating Jesus with American symbols

• Analysis of the contrast between earthly citizenship and the kingdom of God

(00:22:52) Navigating Critical Thinking in Society

• Importance of critical thinking and relinquishing control to faith

• Impact of corporate media on public opinion

• Advocacy for independent sources over divisive media channels

• How critical thinking fosters confidence in beliefs without alienating others

(00:32:38) America and Christianity

• The intersection of faith and patriotism and potential conflicts

• Discussion on political beliefs as modern idols

• Reference to the song "Clear the Stage" and the dangers of elevating anything above God

• Addressing hyperpolitical theology and the importance of understanding

(00:42:49) American Hypocrisy and Eternal Greatness

• Tension between American freedom and spiritual constraints

• Church responses to government mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic

• Bad Roman Episodes on Covid

• Examination of political actions versus genuine Christian values

• Discussion on hypocrisy within pro-life stances and national identity versus spiritual integrity

(00:51:42) Greatness in God and Music

• True greatness in God's kingdom versus making America great again

• Role of music in glorifying God and addressing faith issues

• Josh's passion for creating a community discussing faith, church hurt, and belief

• Emphasis on respectful dialogue within diverse Christian beliefs

(01:02:15) Faith in Modern Society

• Challenges of maintaining faith in a rapidly changing world

• Influence of social media on religious beliefs and practices

• The role of the church in addressing contemporary social issues

• Strategies for fostering a supportive faith community

(01:12:03) Balancing Faith and Personal Beliefs

• Personal stories of reconciling faith with modern values

• The impact of personal experiences on religious views

• Navigating disagreements within the church community

• Encouragement for open-mindedness and growth in faith

(01:22:48) Future of Christianity in America

• Predictions on the evolution of Christianity in a diverse society

• The potential for interfaith dialogue and cooperation

• The role of young people in shaping the future of the church

• Final thoughts on hope and perseverance in faith

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110. The True Reason Behind Jesus' Crucifixion: A Thought-Provoking Discussion with Reverend Caleb Lines

About this Episode

Are you among those who grew up with traditional Christian values yet find yourself questioning the relationship between your faith and political matters? If so, you're not alone. In this energetic episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, host Craig engages with the thought-provoking Reverend Caleb Lines in a discussion that may challenge the core of your theological understanding.

Why was Jesus crucified? Was it a political statement against the empire, or was it a divine act of atonement for humanity's sins? Reverend Lines, coming from a progressive Christian standpoint, proposes a provocative notion in his sermon "Jesus was crucified for standing up to empire and not to atone for the sins of humanity." This episode delves into the rich historical and political backdrop of Jesus' crucifixion, compelling listeners to revisit and potentially revise their conventional beliefs.

The conversation further delves into the concept of atonement as depicted in the New Testament. We examine the contrasting portrayals of Jesus in the Synoptic Gospels versus John, raising the question: Is there a harmonious theological stance within the New Testament, or does it contain significant discrepancies? Challenging the development of penal substitutionary atonement theory, Reverend Lines and Craig illuminate the intricate nuances found in the New Testament writings, with the aim of fostering a more layered understanding of Jesus' teachings and their modern-day relevance to Christian faith and conduct.

As the episode progresses, we delve into the essence of progressive Christianity. Reverend Lines discusses its foundation in the core teachings of Jesus—advocating for peace, justice, and inclusivity—and its application in today's world, particularly regarding contemporary humanitarian issues. He provides insights into how pastors can lead their congregations in navigating the complex terrain of faith intertwined with politics.

The concept of Christian anarchy is also brought to the fore, examining whether voluntary charity could offer a more effective solution to societal challenges than government interventions. This segment questions the effectiveness of political leaders and suggests that perhaps a more Christ-like approach to societal problems could be more fruitful.

Whether you're firmly rooted in your beliefs or on the cusp of a spiritual reassessment, this episode is a must-listen. It invites you to join a conversation that not only digs deep into theological discourse but also touches upon the pressing social justice issues of our time.

Discover a new perspective on Jesus' crucifixion and its implications for the contemporary Christian journey. Engage with this critical episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, where faith, politics, and social justice intersect.

Connect with Reverend Caleb Lines:

• progressivechristianity.org

• University Christian Church in San Diego website and Facebook

• Awakened: A 52-Week Progressive Christian Devotional

Episode Timestamps:

01:07 Christians' Entanglement With the State

•  Reverend Caleb Lines introduces his background in progressive Christianity

•  Jesus' crucifixion, discussing it as a political act against empire as opposed to only for atonement

• Historical context of Jesus' execution by the Roman Empire

•  Conversation on the intersection of faith and politics and the challenge to traditional theological interpretations

07:15 Jesus' Subversive Message

•  Detailed exploration of Jesus' radical message in its historical context

•  How this message clashed with the political powers of the time

•  The role of the crucifixion in the broader political struggle

15:02 Understanding Atonement in New Testament

•  Unpacking the concept of atonement and contrasting views of Jesus in the Synoptic Gospels and John

•  Clarification of misconceptions about a unified New Testament theology

•  Emphasis on historical and political context over penal substitutionary atonement

•  Examination of Jesus' message of loyalty to God's reign over Roman rule

22:10 Jesus as a Political Figure

•  Explores the political implications of Jesus' message

•  How this message was perceived by Roman authority

•  Jesus' death as a result of his political activism

27:37 Interpretations of Scripture and God

•  The complexities of being labeled "woke" and addressing humanitarian crises like the situation in Gaza

•  Role of pastors in facilitating dialogue within their congregations

•  Conversation on biblical inerrancy and interpretive choices in translations

•  Stress on the importance of questioning and wrestling with faith

32:45 The Problem of Biblical Literalism

•  Discussion on the issues with taking biblical text at face value

•  How different translations can alter meanings and interpretations

•  Encouragement for a more nuanced approach to biblical interpretation

38:55 Progressive Christianity Defined Through Conversation

•  Clear articulation of progressive Christianity's core values

•  Emphasis on Jesus' original teachings of peace, justice, and inclusivity

•  Misrepresentation of Christianity by the religious right

• Communion as a symbol of unity and the breaking of social barriers

44:25 Tackling Misconceptions about Progressive Christianity

•  Addresses common misunderstandings and criticisms about progressive Christianity

•  Explores the nuances of the movement's values and beliefs

•  Highlights the importance of dialogue and understanding

49:39 Christian Anarchy vs Government Accountability

• Leveraging nonprofits and social programs in alignment with Jesus' teachings

• Concept of Christian anarchy and voluntary charity as alternatives to government intervention

•  Critically examines political leaders' failures to end military conflicts

•  Unity among Christians on common issues despite different approaches

54:45 The Call to Social Justice

•  Discussion on the Christian mandate for social justice

•  How this mandate can be fulfilled in a modern context

•  Reflection on the responsibility of the Church in addressing social issues

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109. Divine Renegade: Creed, Power, Living in Christian Anarchy

About this Episode

Join host Craig on a revolutionary exploration of Christian Anarchy with the provocative thinker known as the Royal Priest in this daring episode of the podcast. With over two decades of ministry experience, the Royal Priest, an author and host of eight podcasts, provides a rare perspective that pierces through the fabric of traditional Christian dogma. This episode is a must-listen for anyone poised on the precipice of spiritual awakening, yearning to explore the harmony of divine law and human governance.

This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a journey into the heart of what it means to be a follower of Christ in a world governed by man-made structures. Craig shares his transformation from an anarchist skeptic to a believer in a Christ-centered way of life, challenging the church's status quo and redefining what it means to truly serve a higher authority.

The Royal Priest's journey from established church leader to a nomadic truth-seeker provides a captivating backdrop to this dialogue. We examine the tension between comfortable doctrines and the radical truths of Jesus’s teachings. Are you prepared for the "great jubilation" and the reformation it heralds? 

It's an introspective look at the role Christians play in the political landscape and a contemplation of our allegiance: is it to God, state, or both?

As we round off this provocative dialogue, the spotlight turns to law enforcement and its alignment with divine justice. From unwavering support to critical reevaluation, Craig shares how his  journey mirrors a larger questioning within our society. For officers of faith, this is a call to measure your duties against the unyielding yardstick of divine righteousness.

People of faith, are you ready to confront these questions head-on? This episode is not just a passive listening experience; it's an invitation to challenge your perspectives, to stir your spirit, and to join a community seeking to align their earthly walk with the teachings of Christ. It's an invitation to weigh the constructs of governance against the immutable scale of divine righteousness. Don't miss out on this transformative dialogue that's bound to awaken, challenge, and inspire you.

Connect with the Royal Priest:

• Listen to his Podcasts

• Explore his books

• Visit his website: www.theroyalpriest.com

• Explore his graphic design work: www.bjgraphicsonline.com

• Listen to his music: www.nastyonthebeats.com

Episode Timestamps:

00:57 Exploring Christian Anarchy

• Journey through 21 years of ministry and engaging with diverse audiences

• Emphasis on kingdom values over traditional Christian narratives

• Anarchic pursuit of God's will against state governance

• Therapeutic aspect of vocalizing inner truths and guided prayer

09:06 Anarchy vs. Christ

• Tension between Christian teachings and governmental support

• Transition from anarchist principles to living for a higher king

• Biblical insights on earthly governance, referencing 1 Samuel 8

• Conflict between church doctrines and the radical message of Jesus

13:39 Government, Righteousness, and Christian Growth

• Discussion on the authority of Christ in governance post-resurrection

• Responsibility of infusing righteousness into political structures

• Dealing with uncomfortable truths for spiritual maturity

• Recognizing the cost of advocating for divine righteousness

23:49 Spreading the Message

• Concept of "great jubilation" and the manifestation of God's kingdom

• Preparedness for the transition and the risks of opposing divine direction

• The contrast between public reliance on government and advocating for God's governance

• Resistance from the church to kingdom-focused narratives

36:10 Reevaluating Views on Law Enforcement

• Personal shift from supporting to questioning the police

• Conflict of funding law enforcement through taxation

• Encounters with "road pirates" and discussions within communities

• Encouraging deeper understanding of policing issues

39:11 Questioning the Righteousness of Law Enforcement

• Moral dilemmas for officers enforcing laws against religious ethics

• Potential for power abuse within law enforcement

• Historical church views on members in violent positions

• Importance of aligning police actions with divine righteousness

46:41 Critiquing Justice and Proclaiming Righteousness

• Struggle between human judgment and spiritual guidance

• Spiritual warfare and the scriptural balance of peace and conflict

• Growth challenges of outreach projects and importance of consistent messaging

• Valuing criticism for growth and providing resources for divine empowerment

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108. God's Garden vs. Industrial Farming

About this Episode

When Michael from Copperhead Hill Farms traded his suburban lifestyle for the pastoral rhythms of farm life, he didn't expect a couple of gifted pigs to sow the seeds for a revolution in local farming. His tale is a testament to the power of community and self-sufficiency, a narrative we unpick throughout this episode. Unfolding Michael's evolution alongside the challenges and triumphs of establishing a farm with his wife, Carrie, our conversation is a clarion call to reconnect with our food sources and empower our communities through conscientious consumption.

We've all felt the pinch of regulations and red tape, but have you considered how it affects the tomato on your plate or the salsa in your jar? Our discussion takes a turn toward the limitations faced by those who dare to venture into local food production. It's a candid look at the struggles to maintain integrity and quality in our food systems, punctuated by heartening tales of community resilience and the practical magic of trading eggs for tomatoes. Join us as we challenge the status quo of convenience and champion a return to authentic, locally-sourced sustenance. 

Our journey wraps up with a look at the significance behind the rebranding of Copperhead Hill Farms and how it reflects the rebellious spirit akin to moonshiners of yore. Michael and I share our personal transformations, from ideology shifts to the empowering embrace of Christian pacifism and community-focused living. The episode is a rallying cry for listeners to find strength in like-minded communities and take a firm stance in their beliefs. Saddle up for an episode that promises to ignite your spirit of independence and leave you pondering the true cost of the food that graces your table.

Connect with Michael and Copperhead Hill Farms:

Copperhead Hill Farms Website

Copperhead Hill Farms Instagram

Copperhead Hill Farms Facebook

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

02:12 Local Farming and Community Autonomy

• Discussing the transition to sustainable farming, from suburban to farm life, and its impact on community support and the environment.

• The role of community collaboration in successful sustainable farming.

• How adopting farming can improve personal health and lifestyle.

• The potential of local farming to rejuvenate local economies and ecosystems.

07:57 Barter-Based Economy and Legal Challenges

• Personal experiences of a barter economy and the legal issues faced by small-scale farmers.

• The history and modern relevance of barter-based economies in rural communities.

• Legal barriers and regulations impacting small-scale and local farming.

• Advocacy efforts and resources for overcoming legal challenges in local farming.

18:23 Importance of Local Food Sources

• The role of local farming in food security and the benefits of supporting local farmers.

• How local food sources reduce the carbon footprint associated with food transport.

• The positive impact of local food sources on the nutritional value and taste of food.

• Ways to identify and support local food sources in your area.

25:44 Challenges and Solutions for Local Farmers

• Discussion on the high costs of sustainable farming and the influence of consumer choices on local farms.

• Strategies for overcoming financial challenges in sustainable farming.

• The role of consumer awareness and education in supporting local farms.

• The potential of technology and innovation to address challenges in local farming.

33:13 Autonomy and State Control

• Independence from state interference in sustainable farming, examples of entrepreneurial success strategies to navigate state regulations.

• The importance of balancing state control and farmer autonomy for a sustainable agricultural sector.

• Success stories of farmers who have navigated state regulations to establish successful local farms.

• The role of local communities and organizations in advocating for farmer autonomy.

43:02 Significance of Farm Name Change

• Transition from Black Sheep Farmstead to Copperhead Hill Farms and its symbolic significance in personal farming story.

• The role of branding and storytelling in connecting with consumers and the local community.

• The importance of embracing change and evolution in the journey of sustainable farming.

• How a name change can signify a new phase or direction in a farmer's journey.

58:49 Personal Ideological Transition

• Journey from neoconservatism to Christian pacifism and its impact on local farming and community engagement.

• The influence of personal beliefs and ideologies on farming practices and community relations.

• The potential of farming to be a platform for expressing personal beliefs and values.

• How ideological shifts can lead to changes in farming practices and community engagement.

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107. Psychedelic Christianity: Mystic Medicine & Jesus

About this Episode

Craig is joined by Ivan Soto, as we venture into the compelling and controversial territory where Christianity, anarchy, and psychedelics intersect. Listen in as Ivan recounts his personal experiences with these powerful substances, discussing their sacred nature and how they've impacted his spiritual journey. We tackle the tough questions about the role of psychedelics in cognitive enhancement and spiritual awakening, all while examining the risks and misconceptions that come with their use.

Venture with us through the spiritual and emotional landscapes that psychedelics can unlock. We ponder the government's role in regulating these substances and the societal stigmas attached to them. From the debated connection to witchcraft to their legal status, we don't shy away from the tough discussions. Discover why an open dialogue about these substances is crucial within the Christian community and what it means to engage with psychedelics responsibly.

Finally, we explore the transformative potential of psychedelics for personal growth and healing. Reflect with us on how these experiences can offer profound insights into our own psyches, sometimes through challenging "bad trips" that ultimately lead to personal development. Ivan and I consider the potential for psychedelics to be a tool in coping with life's hardships and the intriguing idea of achieving enlightened Christianity. Tune in as we also examine the broader spectrum of spiritual knowledge, questioning whether the Bible is the sole source of divine inspiration or if other experiences, like those with psychedelics, can provide a path to understanding.

Connect with Ivan Soto:

• Facebook

• Instagram

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Introduction: Exploring Psychedelics and Christianity

• Ivan Soto opens the discussion with his personal journey with psychedelics.

• The sacred nature of psychedelics is recognized.

02:00 The Double-Edged Sword of Psychedelics

• Ivan underlines the fact that psychedelics aren't suitable for everyone.

• Importance of understanding individual mental health when considering psychedelic use.

06:00 Stigmas Surrounding Psychedelics

• Discusses the societal stigmas and misconceptions about substances like marijuana.

• The damaging effects of misinformation on the perception of these substances.

09:16 Exploring Psychedelics and Spirituality

• Discussion on the potential of psychedelics for inducing humbling experiences.

• A reminder that not everyone is suited for these experiences.

11:00 Government Regulations and Psychedelics

• A critique the government's role in regulating these substances.

• Historical association of psychedelics with witchcraft.

12:00 The Christian Perspective on Psychedelics

• Ivan calls for open Christian dialogue on the topic of psychedelics.

13:01 Debunking Misconceptions About Witchcraft

• Discusses misconceptions about witchcraft and its overlap with prayer and reality manipulation.

17:00 Psychedelics as Tools for Spiritual Insight

• The use of psychedelics for gaining spiritual insights.

• Drawing parallels between religious figures and psychedelic users.

20:00 The Cultural Significance of Psychedelics

• Exploring the cultural significance of substances like the Amanita muscaria mushroom.

22:54 The Therapeutic Potential of Psychedelics

• The healing potential of psychedelics for emotional and cognitive issues.

27:45 Importance of Set and Setting in Psychedelic Use

• The significance of environment and mindset when using psychedelics.

• Personal insights on the experiences with MDMA and LSD.

30:00 Using Psychedelics for Personal Growth

• The role of intention in using psychedelics for personal growth.

32:26 The Dark Side of Psychedelics: Bad Trips

• Discusses "bad trips" as opportunities for personal insight and psychological understanding.

34:00 Recreational vs Therapeutic Use of Psychedelics

• Highlights the differences between recreational and therapeutic use of psychedelics.

35:00 Psychedelics for Depression and Grief

• Psychedelics as potential aids for coping with depression and grief.

35:09 Spiritual Enlightenment: Scripture vs Psychedelics

• The debate on attaining spiritual enlightenment through scripture vs. psychedelic experiences.

40:00 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Guiding Truth

• The Spirit's role as a guide to truth.

• Early church writings enhancing understanding of the Bible.

43:00 Beyond the Bible: Other Sources of Divine Inspiration

• Questioning the Bible as the sole source of divine inspiration.

• Introduction to the concept of 'apocatastasis'.

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106. Jesus Has No Flag with Against All Flags Podcast Team

About this Episode

In this episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, host Craig Harguess welcomes Anthony, Nathan, and Wyatt from the Against All Flags podcast. Together, they navigate the turbulent waters of Christian Anarchy, holding steadfast to the conviction of 'No King but Christ.' The episode reveals the transformative power of a Christcentric anarchist viewpoint, as they share heartfelt stories about moving beyond traditional politics and organized religion, while keeping Jesus's teachings at the forefront.

They address the inner turmoil Christians often experience when their obligations to the state appear to conflict with their spiritual convictions. The discussion delves into the historical stances of the early church on nonviolence and examines how contemporary believers reconcile these seemingly contrary paths. 

Personal anecdotes, biblical reflections on flawed earthly rulers, and the unshakable sovereignty of Jesus are woven throughout the narrative, emphasizing the rallying cry 'No king but Christ.' The societal implications of standing against national symbols, such as the choice to stand or sit during the national anthem, are also tackled. 

Craig and his guests reflect on the journey of their respective podcasts, from inception to a firm dedication to merging Christian insights with issues of political culture. They celebrate the mission to guide listeners towards a deep, nonviolent faith that rejects the entanglements of statism and violence, acknowledging the global Christian community, the reach of podcasts, and inspirations like Stephen Rose from AnarchoChristian.

Connect with our guests:

• Follow their Podcast: Against All Flags

• Nathan

  • Instagram: @against_all_flags_pod

• Anthony 

  • Instagrams: @against_all_flags_boomer

    @beltfed_bandit

•  Wyatt

  •  @wyatt_j_d_

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:08 Exploring Anarchy Through Fiction

•  Introduction to Joseph Macolino, inspired by Tolkien and Orwell.

• Creation of the fictional universe Evorath, developed from high school to college.

• Joseph's trilogy explores themes of questioning government authority and discovering Christian principles.

12:35 Spreading Christian Anarchy Through Fiction

• The intersection of fiction and Christian anarchism is highlighted.

• Influence of various texts, maintaining a critical perspective.

• Story arc in fantasy series depicts the transition from monarchy to an anarchist society, paralleling historical movements.

• Aim to challenge preconceptions and promote Christian anarchism through storytelling.

19:59 Discussing Writing, Influence, and Christianity

• Focus on Evorath's world-building, where humans are divinely created.

• Discussion on media influence and personal experiences of non-conformity.

• Importance of writers in highlighting societal propaganda and Christian resistance.

• Emphasis on living according to Jesus' teachings despite potential opposition.

28:22 God Is Strategic

• A personal anecdote about a significant encounter and the concept of divine timing.

• Reflection on the creative process and progress in writing projects.

• Introduction of the 'Bad Woman Project' and a call for support.

• Teaser for the content of upcoming books without giving away specifics.

31:46 Expanding on Book Two Characters

• Insight into Averath's characters, including the villain Yazook Stahl.

• Exploration of shapeshifter species and character development.

• Themes of power, corruption, and societal improvement are examined through character arcs.

39:46 Fantasy Series and Libertarian Ideology

• Introduction of diverse races and characters in the third book.

• Characters question tribal loyalties, leading to the formation of a new community.

• Discussion on societal ideals, comparing the fictional society to voluntarism.

• Upcoming books to delve into the complexities of a society striving for harmony post-trilogy.

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105. Translating the Bible – Is the Greek Right? with Duncan Palmer

About this Episode

Have you ever considered how the subtle nuances of ancient Greek can reshape our understanding of biblical scriptures? Well get ready, because in this episode Craig welcomes back Duncan Kerry Palmer to dissect his thought-provoking article, "Political Power and the Connotation Conspiracy." The conversation delves into the complex relationship between Christianity and state authority, with a particular emphasis on the impact of ancient Greek language on biblical scripture interpretation.

The podcast reveals how the translation of words such as 'exousia' and 'hupotaso' from Greek to English can drastically change meanings from 'authority' to 'power' and 'obey' to 'align with.' These linguistic transformations shed new light on well-known scriptures like Romans 13 and Acts 5:29, prompting a reevaluation of Christian perspectives on government, law enforcement, and societal roles.

Palmer provides anecdotes from his biweekly theological debates, adding depth to the discussion on how these subtle linguistic changes can impact Christian views on governance and societal roles. The dialogue is as rich as the cigars enjoyed during those fraternal exchanges, emphasizing the importance of humility and the acknowledgment that our understanding of absolute truth may be more fragile than we'd like to admit.

Listeners are challenged to critically examine scripture and question long-held beliefs, embracing the journey towards a deeper understanding of God's word. The episode concludes with an exploration of the controversial issue of translation conspiracies and their impact on Christian doctrines, particularly in relation to the alleged divine sanctioning of governmental authority. As they grapple with convenient passages like "render unto Caesar," the hosts encourage believers to reconsider what they've been taught. This episode is not only informative but also encourages transformative engagement with faith and politics. Tune in and be prepared to have your perspectives challenged and potentially reshaped.

Connect with Duncan Cary Palmer:

• Social Community: Peakd.com 

• Blog: Hive Blog

• Duncan’s email: creator@sidefire.com

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Christian-State Relationships

• Duncan Kerry Palmer's article "Political Power and the Connotation Conspiracy"

• Impact of translation on scripture interpretation, conspiracy possibility in translations.

• Updates on biweekly theological discussions.

• Engaging in debates, acknowledging limited understanding.

02:04 Scripture Through Translation

• Understanding scripture beyond face value translations.

• Potential for translation errors to influence interpretations.

05:02 Modern-Day Pharisees and Wisdom

• Concept of modern-day Pharisees, wisdom with age.

• Humility continued learning in understanding scripture.

07:07 Connotation in Translation

• Challenges faced by translators, subtle meaning shifts.

• Translation leads to misconceptions about divinely sanctioned powers.

• Importance of critical analysis of biblical language.

15:30 Greek Words in Scripture

• Biblical Greek nuances, influence on scriptural concepts of authority and submission.

• Significance of consistent word usage for understanding.

• Mistranslations of "exousia" and "hupotaso", importance of context.

28:43 Biblical Terminology

• Directive to "make disciples of all nations", misinterpretation related to converting governments.

• Personal anecdote about a speeding ticket, reaction to authoritative language.

• Difference between persuasion and command in leadership.

42:56 God's Government Through His Assembly

• Concept of governance, spiritual authority from a Christian perspective.

• Biases in translation and interpretation, the word "Ecclesia."

• Scripture implications for Jesus' role as a ruler, governance through the church.

54:16 Translation Conspiracies in Christianity

• Misuse of scripture to justify statism, complacency in accepting interpretations.

• Acceptance of out-of-context verses need for deeper scripture study.

• Potential influence of translation committees on skewing original text meanings.

10:02 Lost in Translation

• "Connotation stack up" effect on scriptural interpretation.

• Stacking translations misleading readers about biblical instructions.

21:24 Romans 13 and Governing Authorities

• Interpretation issues surrounding Romans 13, historical context.

• Critical difference between "submit" and "obey" in scripture.

24:14 Christianity and Politics

• Relationship between Christianity and politics, scriptural translation.

• Role of political authority in relation to faith.

36:43 Untranslated Greek Words in the Bible

• Presence of untranslated Greek words in the Bible, implications for understanding.

• Translating certain Greek terms for clarity in Christian doctrine.

42:56 Government, Church, and Satan's Kingdom

• Secular nation-states as "fiefdoms of Satan."

• Governance, spiritual authority through the church vs secular entities.

47:06 Power and Authority of Christ

• True power, authority of Christ vs earthly rulers.

• Recognition of Jesus as the one true King, rejection of secular authority figures.

53:03 Frustration With Christian Statism

• Frustration with Christians accepting statist interpretations of scripture.

• Active effort in studying scripture for discerning true message.

01:00:59 Explore Duncan’s Work

• Reading articles on Peakd.com or his Hive Blog

• Duncan’s email: creator@sidefire.com

• Engagement with content, resources for deeper understanding.

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104. Beats of Belief & Gospel for the Streets

About this Episode

Join us in an enlightening and soulstirring episode of our podcast as we delve into the remarkable journey of Brother Devan, the visionary CEO of Gospel for the Streets. His transformative faith and relentless pursuit to bring unity and hope through his unique blend of Gospel and hiphop music is helping to reshape the spiritual landscape of Memphis, Tennessee. In this conversation, we not only uncover the depths of his tenacity but also explore how his innovative approach to ministry is breaking barriers and challenging conventional norms.

Episode Highlights:

• A deep dive into the inspirational journey of Brother Devan, CEO of Gospel for the Streets, and his unique blend of Gospel and hip-hop that is reshaping the spiritual scene in Memphis, Tennessee.

• An exploration of Brother Devan's personal journey, his role at Innovation Church, and his unique music that challenges norms and unites communities.

• A thoughtful discussion on tough topics such as religious dogma, church hypocrisy, and faith's entanglement with government, with insightful perspectives provided by Brother Devan.

• A look at the vibrant city of Memphis, highlighting the significant role Brother Devan's ministry plays in societal transformation through grassroots activism, dialogue, and music.

• The episode concludes with a light-hearted discussion on viral moments and how they can ignite a deeper calling.

• The dialogue with Brother Devan offers a fresh look at living out the gospel, powered by the rhythm of hip-hop, and reaffirms the power of faith in action.

In the episode, Brother Devan opens up about his personal odyssey and the serendipitous encounter that led to this interview. His powerful narrative is one that defies societal skepticism, much like Jesus faced in Nazareth, and stands as a beacon for believers enduring modernday scrutiny. From his pivotal role at Innovation Church of Memphis to producing soullifting Gospel volumes infused with hiphop beats, Brother Devan's story is a testament to a faith that refuses to bow to adversity. 

We traverse sensitive subjects, examining the pitfalls of religious dogma, the impact of church hypocrisy, and the concerning entanglement of faith with government influence. Brother Devan’s candid insights offer a refreshing perspective on the true essence of spiritual maturity and the courage to maintain convictions in the face of peer pressure and societal expectations. 

As we share personal connections to the vibrant city of Memphis, a place often misrepresented, yet teeming with and resilience, we acknowledge the critical role that strategic collaborations like Brother Devan's ministry play in driving societal transformation. Through grassroots activism, genuine dialogue, and his distinctive Gospel hiphop music, he exemplifies the impact of living out the gospel in everyday life and the streets of Memphis. 

Topping off the episode, we indulge in lighter fare, reminiscing over banana pudding and discussing how viral moments can serve as catalysts for a deeper calling. This episode is not just a conversation; it's a journey through the heart of urban ministry, underscoring the enduring belief in the power of Christ's message to resonate, regardless of life's paths. 

Tune in for an episode that will inspire you, challenge your preconceptions, and reaffirm the power of faith in action. Whether you’re a believer seeking encouragement or simply curious about the intersection of faith and community work, this dialogue with Brother Devan is sure to ignite your spirit and offer a fresh perspective on what it means to live out the gospel for the streets, powered by the rhythm of hiphop.

Connect with Brother Devan:

• Gospel For the Streets Instagram, Facebook & YouTube

• Listen and Follow Brother Devan’s Music on Spotify, Apple Music, iHeart Radio, Deezer, or Youtube

• Devan’s Personal Facebook

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Exploring Christian Faith and Ministry 

• Introduction to Brother Devan and his work with Gospel for the Streets.

• Discussion on prioritizing Christ over the state and personal experiences.

• Insights into Devan's journey and his role at Innovation Church of Memphis.

• Emphasis on ministry through music and the impact on the community.

• Devan's personal likes and dislikes, including banana pudding.

• Reflection on his personal transformation from a gangster to a gentleman.

11:44Modern Day Pharisees and Spiritual Warfare 

• Challenges of personal growth and staying true to convictions.

• Addressing modernday Pharisees and divisiveness within Christianity.

• Importance of returning to the simple teachings of Christ.

• The negative impact of pride and infighting on the search for truth.

18:47 Church Hypocrisy and Government Influence 

• Comparison of Jesus' skepticism in Nazareth to modernday scrutiny of believers.

• Critique of postConstantine Christianity and the shift in church teachings.

• Importance of authenticity in Christianity and spiritual discernment.

• Discussion on being doubted in faith and the challenges of being heard within the church.

31:19 The Narrative of Memphis 

• Reflection on faith versus fear in the context of government and authority.

• Emphasis on community, fellowship, and the broader definition of church.

• Personal connections to Memphis and its potential for growth and transformation.

• Acknowledgment of Memphis' challenges and the media's portrayal of the city.

40:48 Gospel for the Streets 

• Discussion on spiritual leadership and societal change in Memphis.

• The phenomenon of false prophets and marginalization of true spiritual individuals.

• The need for grassroots activism and celebrating the efforts of changemakers.

• Personal connection to Brother Devan's music and its diverse appeal.

45:51 Banana Pudding and Gospel Ministry 

• Nostalgic exchange about banana pudding and personal family recipes.

• The story of Brother Devan's expulsion from church leading to street ministry.

• The role of viral moments in igniting a calling to minister beyond the church walls.

• Emphasis on respectful dialogue about faith and preaching in everyday life.

57:37 Strategic Collaboration for Gospel Outreach 

• Intersection of faith and community action and the call for the church to disengage from corrupt systems.

• Importance of spiritual strategy and belief in divine guidance.

• Plans for a collaborative project with the Bad Roman Project to engage the Memphis community.

• Invitation to a "man cave" event for open discourse among men in the church.

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103. Fiction as a Mirror for Anarchy and Faith Insights with Joseph Macolino

About this Episode

Join us as we embark on a captivating journey with Joseph Macolino, a masterful storyteller whose love for fantasy began in childhood. Joseph shares the evolution of his fictional universe, Evorath, and the tales that populate its thousand-year timeline. Drawing inspiration from literary giants like Tolkien and Orwell, Joseph crafts narratives that resonate deeply with themes of governmental skepticism and the pursuit of a society aligned with the teachings of Christ. His trilogy stands as a testament to the power of fiction in challenging our beliefs and illuminating the path to Christ's kingdom.

Throughout our conversation, we thread the needle between fiction and reality, exploring how the characters in Joseph’s fantasy series confront the winds of change, transitioning from a structured monarchy to a society where Christian anarchist principles reign supreme. This isn't just about creating another world; it's about challenging the status quo, questioning the reader's long-held beliefs, and presenting a tapestry of upheaval that resonates with both historical and contemporary political movements. The tales shared offer more than escapism - they invite introspection and boldly propose a life governed by faith rather than fear

Wrapping up our expedition into Evorath, we delve into the lives of characters who are as multidimensional as the world they inhabit. Villains reveal vulnerabilities and heroes grapple with the unforeseen repercussions of their deeds. Through them, we glimpse a society in flux—a monarchy giving way to a republic, and ultimately an anarchist community living out these principles. It's more than just a fantasy series; it's a reflection of libertarian turned anarchist ideology and the perennial quest for a harmonious existence. Join us for this imaginative and thought-provoking episode that's sure to provoke discussion and maybe even inspire a reevaluation of the way we view our world and the powers that govern it.

Connect with Joseph Macolino:

• Evorath.com

• Follow Joesph on Amazon

• Advanced Reader Copy (Arc Reader)

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:08 Exploring Anarchy Through Fiction

•  Introduction to Joseph Macolino, inspired by Tolkien and Orwell.

• Creation of the fictional universe Evorath, developed from high school to college.

• Joseph's trilogy explores themes of questioning government authority and discovering Christian principles.

12:35 Spreading Christian Anarchy Through Fiction

• The intersection of fiction and Christian anarchism is highlighted.

• Influence of various texts, maintaining a critical perspective.

• Story arc in fantasy series depicts the transition from monarchy to an anarchist society, paralleling historical movements.

• Aim to challenge preconceptions and promote Christian anarchism through storytelling.

19:59 Discussing Writing, Influence, and Christianity

• Focus on Evorath's world-building, where humans are divinely created.

• Discussion on media influence and personal experiences of non-conformity.

• Importance of writers in highlighting societal propaganda and Christian resistance.

• Emphasis on living according to Jesus' teachings despite potential opposition.

28:22 God Is Strategic

• A personal anecdote about a significant encounter and the concept of divine timing.

• Reflection on the creative process and progress in writing projects.

• Introduction of the 'Bad Woman Project' and a call for support.

• Teaser for the content of upcoming books without giving away specifics.

31:46 Expanding on Book Two Characters

• Insight into Averath's characters, including the villain Yazook Stahl.

• Exploration of shapeshifter species and character development.

• Themes of power, corruption, and societal improvement are examined through character arcs.

39:46 Fantasy Series and Libertarian Ideology

• Introduction of diverse races and characters in the third book.

• Characters question tribal loyalties, leading to the formation of a new community.

• Discussion on societal ideals, comparing the fictional society to voluntarism.

• Upcoming books to delve into the complexities of a society striving for harmony post-trilogy.

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102. True Crime, Religion and Podcasting with Cristy Ramos of Cristy's Chronicles Podcast

In this special episode of The Bad Roman, we take an atypical yet gripping detour into the sinister world of true crime, religious beliefs, and their troubling convergence. Cristy Ramos, the voice behind the budding podcast Cristy's Chronicles, where she discusses the finer details of real-life crime stories. Having worked in law and health insurance, she has deep knowledge of how the system functions. Cristy offers a fresh perspective on understanding the motivations of criminals and how the government deals with them.

In this conversation, we explore both infamous and lesser-known cases like those of Casey Anthony and Israel Keyes. With a past rooted in Christianity, Cristy offers an enlightening perspective on how religious upbringings and interpretations of scripture can intersect with and potentially influence criminal behavior.

Even though we're talking about True Crime, this topic helps us, as Bad Romans, understand how the government catches and punishes criminals, and if our justice system is doing a good job. It challenges us to think about what ‘No King But Christ’ means when faced with horrendous acts, how do we punish people in a voluntary society? 

As our discussion winds down we touch on the problems some cities like Memphis face, how technology and regular people can help solve cold cases, and spooky topics like UFOs and conspiracy theories!

Conversation Highlights:

• The role religion can have infamous crimes.

• The trial of Casey Anthony and the unanswered questions.

• How serial killer Israel Keyes planned his crimes and whether his religious upbringing had any role.

• The impact of crime on society and how the government responds, like in the case of Memphis.

• How common people and technology can help solve old mysteries.

• Fun topics like ghosts, UFOs, and conspiracy theories in our real-life crime chat.

Whether we're studying about criminals or pondering over statism, The Bad Roman is always here to help you learn and think differently. Join us for this episode and others as we continue to explore what it means to live as a follower of Jesus in the 21st century, Christians’ entanglement with political forces around the world, and the mystery of being alive that intrigues us all.

Connect with Cristy:

Cristy’s Chronicles Podcast – website, Apple Podcasts

Facebook Page

Discord 

Instagram @cristys_chroniclez

Email: cristyschronicles@gmail.com

Key Moments:

00:00:17 Exploring True Crime and Religion

◦ Discussion of the intersection between true crime and religion

◦ Insights from Cristy Ramos on religious influence in criminal behavior

◦ Impact of Israel Keyes' religious upbringing on his actions

00:03:45 Understanding the Causes of Disturbing Behavior

◦ Delving into the nature vs. nurture debate in criminal psychology

◦ The role of proper child nurturing and misuse of scripture in child-rearing

00:09:59 Mother's Emotion in Crime Case Perceptions

◦ Reflections on the emotional perceptions surrounding the Casey Anthony trial

00:09:59 The Casey Anthony Murder Trial

◦ Analyzing the controversial defense strategy and jury decision

◦ Discussion of the death-like odor evidence in the Casey Anthony case

00:15:12 Casey Anthony

◦ Exploring inconsistencies in Casey Anthony's story

◦ Post-trial life and public skepticism towards Casey Anthony

00:22:20 Israel Keyes and Serial Killers

◦ Dissecting the calculated crimes of serial killer Israel Keyes

◦ How Keyes' religious upbringing and early violence may have influenced his psyche

00:23:33 Israel Keyes' Different Christian Church

◦ Examination of Israel Keyes' unusual upbringing in a Christian-based church

00:29:45 Serial Killer's Moral Code and Restrictions

◦ Keyes' self-imposed moral code and avoidance of certain victims

00:35:08 Serial Killers and Gang Violence

◦ The contrast between gang violence and serial killers' methodical planning

◦ Addressing investigative biases and the controversial theory of Kurt Cobain's death

00:36:27 Questioning Cobain's Death and Investigative Biases

◦ Discussing Israel Keyes' social ostracization and early signs of violence

00:38:37 Cults and the Death Penalty

◦ Link between cult-like churches and criminal behavior

◦ Reflections on the death penalty and wrongful convictions

00:44:15 Serial Killer's Revelations and Suicide

◦ Israel Keyes' lack of remorse and calculated approach to crime

◦ Keyes' suicide in prison following capture and partial confession

00:48:29 Crime Impact, Role of Government

◦ Debating criminal justice policies and repeat offenses

◦ Role of citizen detectives and DNA technology in solving cold cases

◦ Personal anecdotes on dealing with loss through true crime narratives

00:53:50 True Crime and Victim's Families

◦ Impact of true crime stories on the lives of victims' families

00:56:17 Conspiracies, Crime, and Paranormal Exploration

◦ Introducing fellow podcasters and discussion on supernatural occurrences

◦ Intersections of true crime with conspiracy theories and unexplained phenomena

01:00:02 True Crime Podcast Halloween Plans

◦ Reflections on the origins of "The Exorcist" film and government UFO acknowledgments

◦ Cristy Ramos' journey into podcasting and aspirations for future collaborations

01:06:25 Impressive Crime Podcast With Learning Opportunities

◦ Invitation for listener engagement and suggestions for future podcast topics

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