107. Psychedelic Christianity: Mystic Medicine & Jesus

About this Episode

Craig is joined by Ivan Soto, as we venture into the compelling and controversial territory where Christianity, anarchy, and psychedelics intersect. Listen in as Ivan recounts his personal experiences with these powerful substances, discussing their sacred nature and how they've impacted his spiritual journey. We tackle the tough questions about the role of psychedelics in cognitive enhancement and spiritual awakening, all while examining the risks and misconceptions that come with their use.

Venture with us through the spiritual and emotional landscapes that psychedelics can unlock. We ponder the government's role in regulating these substances and the societal stigmas attached to them. From the debated connection to witchcraft to their legal status, we don't shy away from the tough discussions. Discover why an open dialogue about these substances is crucial within the Christian community and what it means to engage with psychedelics responsibly.

Finally, we explore the transformative potential of psychedelics for personal growth and healing. Reflect with us on how these experiences can offer profound insights into our own psyches, sometimes through challenging "bad trips" that ultimately lead to personal development. Ivan and I consider the potential for psychedelics to be a tool in coping with life's hardships and the intriguing idea of achieving enlightened Christianity. Tune in as we also examine the broader spectrum of spiritual knowledge, questioning whether the Bible is the sole source of divine inspiration or if other experiences, like those with psychedelics, can provide a path to understanding.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Introduction: Exploring Psychedelics and Christianity

• Ivan Soto opens the discussion with his personal journey with psychedelics.

• The sacred nature of psychedelics is recognized.

02:00 The Double-Edged Sword of Psychedelics

• Ivan underlines the fact that psychedelics aren't suitable for everyone.

• Importance of understanding individual mental health when considering psychedelic use.

06:00 Stigmas Surrounding Psychedelics

• Discusses the societal stigmas and misconceptions about substances like marijuana.

• The damaging effects of misinformation on the perception of these substances.

09:16 Exploring Psychedelics and Spirituality

• Discussion on the potential of psychedelics for inducing humbling experiences.

• A reminder that not everyone is suited for these experiences.

11:00 Government Regulations and Psychedelics

• A critique the government's role in regulating these substances.

• Historical association of psychedelics with witchcraft.

12:00 The Christian Perspective on Psychedelics

• Ivan calls for open Christian dialogue on the topic of psychedelics.

13:01 Debunking Misconceptions About Witchcraft

• Discusses misconceptions about witchcraft and its overlap with prayer and reality manipulation.

17:00 Psychedelics as Tools for Spiritual Insight

• The use of psychedelics for gaining spiritual insights.

• Drawing parallels between religious figures and psychedelic users.

20:00 The Cultural Significance of Psychedelics

• Exploring the cultural significance of substances like the Amanita muscaria mushroom.

22:54 The Therapeutic Potential of Psychedelics

• The healing potential of psychedelics for emotional and cognitive issues.

27:45 Importance of Set and Setting in Psychedelic Use

• The significance of environment and mindset when using psychedelics.

• Personal insights on the experiences with MDMA and LSD.

30:00 Using Psychedelics for Personal Growth

• The role of intention in using psychedelics for personal growth.

32:26 The Dark Side of Psychedelics: Bad Trips

• Discusses "bad trips" as opportunities for personal insight and psychological understanding.

34:00 Recreational vs Therapeutic Use of Psychedelics

• Highlights the differences between recreational and therapeutic use of psychedelics.

35:00 Psychedelics for Depression and Grief

• Psychedelics as potential aids for coping with depression and grief.

35:09 Spiritual Enlightenment: Scripture vs Psychedelics

• The debate on attaining spiritual enlightenment through scripture vs. psychedelic experiences.

40:00 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Guiding Truth

• The Spirit's role as a guide to truth.

• Early church writings enhancing understanding of the Bible.

43:00 Beyond the Bible: Other Sources of Divine Inspiration

• Questioning the Bible as the sole source of divine inspiration.

• Introduction to the concept of 'apocatastasis'.

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74. Can We Love More Than We Hate with Hodey Johns

About this Episode

This week Craig is joined by Hodey Johns, co-host of the Enemy of My Enemy podcast from the We Are Libertarians Network. They discuss focussing on love that looks like how God loves us, contrasting these with social media discussions that look more like hate. They talk about political statements that assume God hates those on the wrong end of our favorite policies. However, Christians shouldn't even be on the political spectrum. Can the love of Jesus be made visible when we fight online over our political positioning?

The Israelites received laws from the very hand of God, but they missed His heart for humanity to follow their consciences in loving their neighbors. Not even Jewish regulations could justify people in the sight of God because love is the fulfillment of the law. Jesus proved this when he righteously ignored the Levitical laws, and the Pharisees proved that one could follow the rules perfectly and still be unrighteous.

Unfortunately, we haven't learned this; hate may be more natural to Christians than love. We fail to worship God according to His desires when we fail to love those around us. As Christians, rather than looking for the boundaries we should not step on and assume that the rest of our conduct is loving, we need to seek the narrow path and aggressively love everyone, including our enemies. After all, this is how Christ first loved us.

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Episode Timestamps:

1:56 – Introduction to Hodey Johns

·       Loves debates

·       Theologian

·       Writes about video games

·       Parents weren't very interested in their own Christian faith

o   Hodey was self-taught in Christianity and the Bible from a young age

·       Became a Mormon for 15 years

·       Lived all over the states

o   Noticed that Christian culture differs from place to place

6:19 – Christians on Social Media

·       Do more Christians need to put themselves out there on social media?

·       People don't change their minds in an instant or one conversation

o   They contemplate new ideas for a while

o   Like planting a new tree, waiting and tasting its fruit

·       We can't let others do the theological thinking for us

o   Not even religious folks

o   Jesus called the Pharisees a brood of vipers

·       No Christian has everything figured out

o   Christianity is a process

o   But we don't need to worry because we know who God is

16:14 – Love one another and love your enemy

·       Christians have a tough time balancing being in the world but not of the world

·       Thankfully, it's not all over once you sin

·       When you sin and recover, you get better

·       Christians wield hate and fear as a conversion method

o   We have all experienced hate

o   As Christians, we know that hate is evil

·       Love is the highest commandment

o   Jesus loved us and died for us

o   Would we give up our lives for those we are fighting with on social media

·       Love is not just the absence of hate

·       We ought to be aggressively loving

o   Christianity is a narrow path

·       Christianity should not be us saying, "God opposes [insert pet peeve here]"

·       There is real hate from both left- and right-wing Christians

·       Christians should not be on a political spectrum

·       Biden's student loan debt write-offs are not forgiveness

·       The left likes to think it has a monopoly on love

·       Jesus only spoke in parables to the public

o   Stories of love and goodness

o   We should be using stories too and asking, "who is the loving neighbour?"

·       Moral choices are required for good deeds to be produced

·       Paying taxes is not a virtue

33:09 – How ethical is the law?

·       Immigrants from Mexico who come to better their lives are human beings too

o   They cross an imaginary line to come here

o   The law of the land is in opposition to God's law

o   They only come to eat and feed their families

o   Christians don't seem to understand this

o   They are still image bearers of God

·       Jewish law was superior to today's laws

o   They still condemned people

o   They still allowed for the killing of Jesus Christ

·       The Bible can be summarised as people trying to justify themselves by the law

o   It was to show the way to being led by the Holy Spirit

o   It was to give the Israelites time to escape the slave mentality of Egypt

·       Where is your faith?

o   Do politicians protect you and your nation?

o   It should be in Jesus Christ

o   Why are Christians scared of immigrants?

o   In Jesus' death and resurrection Christianity grew

·       Christianity's hey-day was when Christians were stateless

·       The Israelites' laws changed from chapter to chapter of Leviticus

o   The law was being revised constantly

§  God was stable; His people were not

o   They couldn't enter the promised land until they realised the law could not save them

·       Even the wandering Israelites went astray when they tried to turn their relationship with God into a law-based system

40:19 – We can't legislate love.

·       The complex legal system that we have cannot be used to promote Christian values

o   The Israelites walked together with God and couldn't make the law work

·       Laws are written on paper, but let's try to figure out what is right

·       The will of God is to love one another

o   Love is the command

o   We worship someone else when we fail to love

·       When Christians think they are God, they become hateful

·       Are you really a Christian if you are not moving towards love?

·       Are we being motivated by the love of Christ?

45:57 – Church is unappealing when we don't have love

·       Church attendance has dropped off since 2013

·       There are reasons why people don't go to church

o   Hate-filled sermons

o   Hate-filled conversations with people after church

·       Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax-collectors

o   We should also be showing them the love of Christ

·       Jesus' measure of how to get into heaven was to forgive and not judge others

o   That is mentioned more often than other methods usually suggested

·       Homosexuality is not a sin

·       Whosoever is angry with his brother is at risk of being judged

·        Jesus said himself that if you call someone gay, you are in danger of being judged

·       Wanting to punish people crossing a border is wrong

·       Jesus ignored the law and healed on the Sabbath

o   This is why Hodey trashes the law

o   Jesus never denied breaking the Sabbath

·       The scriptures are stories of people working out morality in a complex world

·       The transformation of your heart is all that matters

·       You can break the law and be right

·       You can follow the Levitical law and be wrong

o   The Pharisees proved it

·       Jesus ignored the laws, so we can ignore immoral laws also

1:05:47 – Smoked meats

·       During covid, Hodey picked up a smoking meats hobby

·       Smoking meat makes Hodey a better person

o   It's a philosophical journey

o   The community is full of nice people

·       Well-cooked brisket is a bad piece of meat turned good through cooking

·       Mesquite trees make the best-smoked meats

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