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111. God vs MAGA: The Dangers of Mixing Christianity with American Nationalism

About this Episode

What happens when political figures are compared to religious icons? Join us on the Bad Roman Podcast as we explore this provocative question with our special guest, singer-songwriter Josh Nichols. In this episode, we dive into the unsettling comparisons between Donald Trump and Jesus, especially during election season on social media.

Comparing Donald Trump to Jesus is not just misguided—it's deeply problematic. Through his powerful song "God vs MAGA," Josh challenges the troubling idolatry of political figures and sheds light on the toxic rhetoric that equates Trump with Christ. We'll explore how these false comparisons harm our faith and divert our focus from the true essence of Jesus' teachings.

American nationalism has often cloaked itself in the guise of Christianity, but what does this mean for our spiritual integrity? We dissect the disturbing tendency to merge faith with national pride, examining how this threatens to turn patriotism into idolatry. Josh, through his song "God vs MAGA," unpacks the manipulation of religious beliefs by political entities and how such actions lead to a misguided faith in political leaders. Together, we scrutinize the parallels between Trump's portrayal and the biblical figure Barabbas, emphasizing the crucial need to discern truth amidst the political noise.

We highlight the conflict between personal rights and biblical principles of humility and selflessness by unpacking the theological implications and contrasting earthly citizenship with eternal values. Josh’s poignant lyrics, including the line "God doesn't want to make America great again," serve as a stark reminder that our allegiance should be to God's kingdom, not a nation.

Critical thinking and independent thought are crucial in navigating the noise of corporate media and political propaganda. We discuss the liberating power of relinquishing control to faith and how critical thinking fosters confident, independent opinions. From addressing the idolatry of political beliefs to critiquing the hypocrisy within pro-life stances, this episode is a call to elevate our faith above nationalism and strive for a greatness rooted in God's infinite and unconditional love, not a nation-state’s past.

We wrap up with personal reflections and broader societal critiques, highlighting the tension between national identity and spiritual integrity. Join us for this eye-opening dialogue that underscores the ultimate greatness found in God's kingdom and His unconditional love.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

(00:00:02) God vs MAGA

  • Comparison of Donald Trump to Jesus and its implications

  • Insights from Josh Nichols on political manipulation

  • Analysis of Trump's portrayal and parallels with Barabbas

  • Discussion on Josh's song "God vs MAGA"

(00:09:37) Jesus, Nationalism, and Idolatry

  • Examination of the blending of Christianity and American nationalism

  • Discussion on the theological implications of national pride

  • Insights into the idolatry of associating Jesus with American symbols

  • Analysis of the contrast between earthly citizenship and the kingdom of God

(00:22:52) Navigating Critical Thinking in Society

  • Importance of critical thinking and relinquishing control to faith

  • Impact of corporate media on public opinion

  • Advocacy for independent sources over divisive media channels

  • How critical thinking fosters confidence in beliefs without alienating others

(00:32:38) America and Christianity

  • The intersection of faith and patriotism and potential conflicts

  • Discussion on political beliefs as modern idols

  • Reference to the song "Clear the Stage" and the dangers of elevating anything above God

  • Addressing hyperpolitical theology and the importance of understanding

(00:42:49) American Hypocrisy and Eternal Greatness

  • Tension between American freedom and spiritual constraints

  • Church responses to government mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic

  • Examination of political actions versus genuine Christian values

  • Discussion on hypocrisy within pro-life stances and national identity versus spiritual integrity

(00:51:42) Greatness in God and Music

  • True greatness in God's kingdom versus making America great again

  • Role of music in glorifying God and addressing faith issues

  • Josh's passion for creating a community discussing faith, church hurt, and belief

  • Emphasis on respectful dialogue within diverse Christian beliefs

(01:02:15) Faith in Modern Society

  • Challenges of maintaining faith in a rapidly changing world

  • Influence of social media on religious beliefs and practices

  • The role of the church in addressing contemporary social issues

  • Strategies for fostering a supportive faith community

(01:12:03) Balancing Faith and Personal Beliefs

  • Personal stories of reconciling faith with modern values

  • The impact of personal experiences on religious views

  • Navigating disagreements within the church community

  • Encouragement for open-mindedness and growth in faith

(01:22:48) Future of Christianity in America

  • Predictions on the evolution of Christianity in a diverse society

  • The potential for interfaith dialogue and cooperation

  • The role of young people in shaping the future of the church

  • Final thoughts on hope and perseverance in faith


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25. Romans 13 & Stateless Civil Governance with Gregory Baus

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Is an elected official’s authority automatically ordained by God? What is Jesus referring to when he says “render unto Caesar what is Caesar's”? In the episode, Gregory Baus delves into Romans 13 and stateless civil governance. 

Are Christians required by God to submit to the governing authorities, even when they are tyrannical or immoral? Are all elected officials ordained by God? Is “render to Caesar” referring to a Biblical requirement for Christians to pay taxes? All of the questions and more are answered in this episode. Craig and Gregory also discuss their transition into anarchism and Gregory’s nomadic lifestyle, along with touching on reformed theology and how that affects an anarchist interpretation of Romans 13. 

Timestamps & starting points for further exploration:

1:50 Gregory’s background 

  • Baltimore

  • Munich

  • Covenant College

  • Redeemer University

  • teaching English overseas

7:30 Christian Philosophy 

11:15 Transition to anarchism

28:45 Proper understanding of individualism within anarchism

31:45 Romans 13  and Stateless Civil Governance: A Reformed View by Gregory’s Baus

45:25 Nomadic Lifestyle 

  • overseas during middle school 

  • Japan

  • California 

  • Canada

  • Netherlands

  • Cambodia 

  • Beijing 

  • Budapest 

49:00 Dave Ramsey

49:45 Gregory’s plugs