Democracy

123. Democracy vs. Monarchy: Are We Truly Free? with Jeb Smith

About this Episode

What if everything you thought about democracy was wrong? In our latest episode, Jeb Smith, author of "Missing Monarchy,"challenges the conventional wisdom on governance, exploring the surprising benefits of medieval kingship over modern democracy. Are we truly freer today, or have we misunderstood the past?

In our conversation, we explore:

The Misconceptions of Democracy: Jeb argues that democracy may not be the beacon of freedom we believe it to be. Discover why he believes medieval societies offered more liberty than our current systems.

The Role of Kingship: Far from being tyrannical, medieval kingship was decentralized and voluntary, offering a unique form of governance that respected individual choice.

The Power of No King but Christ: How the teachings of Christ can guide us away from political entanglements and towards a more authentic Christian life.

Jeb Smith takes us through history, sharing how his transition from atheism to Christianity and his study of pre-14th-century European history reshaped his understanding of governance and liberty. He states, "In the Middle Ages…there's not a king passing laws. The laws are derived from the people organically in their customs that lasted over hundreds of years." This perspective invites listeners to reconsider the centralized power of modern democracy and its impact on individual freedom.

The conversation turns to the Christian principle of "No King but Christ," urging believers to prioritize divine authority over earthly institutions. Jeb and Craig explore how this idea can guide Christians in navigating the complexities of government, emphasizing that no human institution should dictate one's life if it contradicts Christ's teachings.

Jeb also critiques the modern education system, describing it as a tool for creating compliant citizens rather than fostering independent thinkers. He warns, "If people have no solid foundation and no roots running deep in the soil, they can be easily swept off by the current agenda of the day." This analysis encourages listeners to examine the influences shaping their beliefs and actions.

As the discussion unfolds, Jeb challenges the effectiveness of libertarianism within the current political framework, quoting Lysander Spooner: "Under democracy, a man finds himself inspired by a government that he cannot resist, a government that forces him to pay money, render service, and forego the exercise of many of his natural rights under peril and weighty punishment." This critique invites listeners to question whether true liberty can be achieved through existing political structures.

Tune in on your favorite podcast player as Jeb unpacks these provocative ideas and shares insights from his book, "Missing: What Americans Get Wrong about Monarchy, Democracy, Feudalism, and Liberty." The dialogue not only questions the status quo but also offers a perspective on the intersection of faith, governance, and education. This episode is sure to pique your curiosity and inspire you to reflect on the principles that should guide our Christian lives.

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Episode Timestamps:

(1:08) Jeb's Background

  • Jeb shares his upbringing in Vermont within a Christian family

  • his initial rejection of faith due to unanswered questions

  • His journey through atheism, influenced by secular education, eventually led him back to Christianity through apologetics and creationist literature.

  • Jeb describes his political journey from a conservative American Christian to a libertarian,

(5:18) Influence of Tolkien and Historical Insights

  • Jeb's admiration for J.R.R. Tolkien's works, which incorporate anarchist and libertarian themes, inspired him to explore Anglo-Saxon history. 

  • His research revealed a libertarian and anarchist form of governance in pre-conquest England, challenging modern perceptions of monarchy.

(8:12) Identity and Labels

  • Craig and Jeb discuss the complexity of political and religious labels

  • importance of individual thought and the limitations of labels in capturing the nuances of personal beliefs

(9:25) Christianity and Politics

  • critiques the conflation of Christianity with political figures like Trump

  • dangers of aligning faith with political agendas

  • importance of separating religious beliefs from political identities to maintain the integrity of Christian teachings

(11:01) The Dangers of Political Allegiance

  • How political allegiance can distort Christian values

  • need for Christians to prioritize their faith over political affiliations to avoid being swayed by partisan agendas

  • universal appeal of Jesus' teachings, which transcend religious boundaries and resonate with people of various beliefs.

(14:24) Western Christianity's Challenges

  • divergence between Western and Eastern Christianity

  • influence of cultural and political factors on the practice of Christianity in the West

(15:46) Breaking Free from Political Labels

  • liberation found in stepping away from political affiliations

  • importance of independent thought and the benefits of viewing issues from multiple perspectives.

(19:06) The Power of Discourse

  • value of honest conversations beyond political divides is highlighted

  • role of media in shaping public opinion and the need for critical engagement with information sources are discussed.

  • tracing the influence of media and propaganda back to the 14th century and its impact on public perception.

(22:01) Voluntarism and Anarchism

  • The nuances between voluntarism and anarchism

  • appeal of decentralized governance as seen in medieval times

(25:11) Medieval Governance and Libertarianism

  • Jeb delves into the libertarian aspects of medieval kingship

    • decentralized power and laws were derived from longstanding customs

  • voluntary nature of medieval societies is contrasted with modern centralized governments, offering insights into historical governance models.

(30:36) The Role of Kings in Medieval Society

  • The limited power of medieval kings is examined, challenging modern perceptions of monarchy as inherently oppressive. 

  • The king's role as a protector and upholder of law, rather than a ruler, is discussed, highlighting the community-driven nature of medieval governance.

(35:13) Decentralization and Self-Government

  • benefits of decentralized governance

(39:45) Abortion and Government Involvement

  • The role of government in moral issues like abortion 

    • importance of cultural and educational influences over legislation. 

  • Jeb and Craig advocate for a society where moral decisions are guided by personal beliefs and community values rather than government mandates.

(43:24) Rebellion Against Tyranny

  • The medieval perspective on resisting tyrannical rulers

    • importance of prioritizing divine law over human authority

  • power of collective disobedience in challenging unjust laws and the role of faith in guiding moral actions

(45:51) Education and Indoctrination

  • The critique of modern education systems as tools for conformity

  • emphasis on the need for independent judgment and critical thinking 

  • The role of education in shaping societal values and obedience

(54:18) Democracy and Totalitarianism

  • The inherent progression of democracies towards totalitarianism 

    • limitations of conservative and libertarian values within a democratic system

  • challenges of maintaining individual freedoms and resisting the centralization of power are 

(59:09) Libertarianism and Political Realities

  • limitations of libertarianism within the current political framework 

  • need for decentralization to truly achieve libertarian ideals

  • importance of allowing diverse communities to coexist, each with its own set of values and governance structures


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103. Fiction as a Mirror for Anarchy and Faith Insights with Joseph Macolino

About this Episode

Join us as we embark on a captivating journey with Joseph Macolino, a masterful storyteller whose love for fantasy began in childhood. Joseph shares the evolution of his fictional universe, Evorath, and the tales that populate its thousand-year timeline. Drawing inspiration from literary giants like Tolkien and Orwell, Joseph crafts narratives that resonate deeply with themes of governmental skepticism and the pursuit of a society aligned with the teachings of Christ. His trilogy stands as a testament to the power of fiction in challenging our beliefs and illuminating the path to Christ's kingdom.

Throughout our conversation, we thread the needle between fiction and reality, exploring how the characters in Joseph’s fantasy series confront the winds of change, transitioning from a structured monarchy to a society where Christian anarchist principles reign supreme. This isn't just about creating another world; it's about challenging the status quo, questioning the reader's long-held beliefs, and presenting a tapestry of upheaval that resonates with both historical and contemporary political movements. The tales shared offer more than escapism - they invite introspection and boldly propose a life governed by faith rather than fear

Wrapping up our expedition into Evorath, we delve into the lives of characters who are as multidimensional as the world they inhabit. Villains reveal vulnerabilities and heroes grapple with the unforeseen repercussions of their deeds. Through them, we glimpse a society in flux—a monarchy giving way to a republic, and ultimately an anarchist community living out these principles. It's more than just a fantasy series; it's a reflection of libertarian turned anarchist ideology and the perennial quest for a harmonious existence. Join us for this imaginative and thought-provoking episode that's sure to provoke discussion and maybe even inspire a reevaluation of the way we view our world and the powers that govern it.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:08 Exploring Anarchy Through Fiction

  •  Introduction to Joseph Macolino, inspired by Tolkien and Orwell.

  • Creation of the fictional universe Evorath, developed from high school to college.

  • Joseph's trilogy explores themes of questioning government authority and discovering Christian principles.

12:35 Spreading Christian Anarchy Through Fiction

  • The intersection of fiction and Christian anarchism is highlighted.

  • Influence of various texts, maintaining a critical perspective.

  • Story arc in fantasy series depicts the transition from monarchy to an anarchist society, paralleling historical movements.

  • Aim to challenge preconceptions and promote Christian anarchism through storytelling.

19:59 Discussing Writing, Influence, and Christianity

  • Focus on Evorath's world-building, where humans are divinely created.

  • Discussion on media influence and personal experiences of non-conformity.

  • Importance of writers in highlighting societal propaganda and Christian resistance.

  • Emphasis on living according to Jesus' teachings despite potential opposition.

28:22 God Is Strategic

  • A personal anecdote about a significant encounter and the concept of divine timing.

  • Reflection on the creative process and progress in writing projects.

  • Introduction of the 'Bad Woman Project' and a call for support.

  • Teaser for the content of upcoming books without giving away specifics.

31:46 Expanding on Book Two Characters

  • Insight into Averath's characters, including the villain Yazook Stahl.

  • Exploration of shapeshifter species and character development.

  • Themes of power, corruption, and societal improvement are examined through character arcs.

39:46 Fantasy Series and Libertarian Ideology

  • Introduction of diverse races and characters in the third book.

  • Characters question tribal loyalties, leading to the formation of a new community.

  • Discussion on societal ideals, comparing the fictional society to voluntarism.

  • Upcoming books to delve into the complexities of a society striving for harmony post-trilogy.


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