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55. Is Taxation Slavery? with Patrick Carroll

About this episode

Have you ever wanted to take a Biblical journey through taxes? We are delighted to have Patrick Carroll back on the show today to talk us through an article he shared entitled: Taxation is Slavery: A Biblical Case. Patrick Carroll is a scholar, writer, and teacher of Biblical economic philosophy. He comments on current events from an anarchist perspective in his articles for Fee.org, where he's also involved with the Hazlitt Apprenticeship. Patrick has previously been on our show for episode 16, If You Vote, You Can't Complain, and has contributed multiple articles for syndication on our blog.

In this episode, we go through the Bible together and take a close look at where and when God took clear stands on taxation. What does our Bible study reveal? Taxation makes people into slaves. God never intended for us to have the government man has created. The kingdom of Heaven is upside down, and it is our job to spread His way of peace and love in the world to flip it back.

You learn more about Patrick and connect with him on Twitter, Facebook, and on his blog: The Prudent Navigator.

Episode Timestamps:

2:59 Is taxation slavery?

  • Libertarians often say it’s theft, but is it worse than that?

  • We need people to think and understand

  • Canada is worse/more draconian than the US… at this point

  • Most people scoff

  • Slavery is when a person is owned by another human

    • Ownership is control of something

    • If we own an object, we can take it anywhere and do whatever we want with it

    • The state gets to decide what drugs we take, how we live our lives…

  • We don’t have the brutal 1800’s style of slavery

    • But perhaps a more insidious current form

      • Savings are taxed away

      • Inflation

      • Regulations

      • Military Industrial Complex

      • Prison Complex

      • War on drugs

      • Not as visible, but still there

  • The state is good at hiding it

    • But they claim to give us our rights

      • Our rights come from God

        • We’re created with them

6:00 Human government

  • 1 Samuel 8

    • The Israelites demand a king 

      • To be like other nations

      • Israelites were supposed to be holy or different from other nations

        • God was supposed to be their King

      • God has Samuel warn them

        • The king will tax you

        • He'll take your children when he wants them

        • You will be his slaves

  • “Christians who advocate for human rulers today tend to assume that God is only opposed to unjust rulers.” - Patrick

    • They’ll point to China and say it’s wrong because it’s authoritarian

    • God never says, “Kingship is a good idea, as long as it’s limited.” - Patrick

    • “He says, ‘He’s going to tax you,’ as if that’s inherently wrong.”

  • There has never been a human-made government who had everyone’s best interests at heart

  • So many in the US believe our government was made by God and is just

    • How can it be from God when it kills so many people and other parts of His creation overseas?

      • So many atrocities

        • From foreign policy to war on drugs

  • People argue that we’re being taxed to help the poor

    • Whereas kings only taxed to get rich

    • The government is not helping the poor

    • Jesus didn't give his money to Caesar and ask him to help the poor

      • He told his disciples to do it

      • He modeled how to help

    • Real charity isn't forced

    • There is no instance in Scripture of the government being used to promote general welfare

  • The rich’s taxes

    • Many people advocate for raising wealthy people’s taxes

      • Goes against 2/10 Commandments

        • Don’t envy

        • Don’t steal

    • Do the rich have a duty to give to the poor out of their wealth, since they have been given much?

      • Yes, but that doesn't give us the right to force them

    • People get mad because the rich find loopholes through paying taxes

      • If you can find a way around it, do it!

        • Use the money you save to help the poor

  • Outsourcing sin

    • Give people power and let them kill the people we don’t like

      • And claim innocence

15:15 Examples from the Old Testament

  • Conquered nations paid tribute to the conquering king

    • No longer working for themselves

  • Whoever slays Goliath (1 Samuel 17:25)

    • Will be made rich

    • Marry the princess

    • And have his father’s house set free

      • AKA exempt from taxes

      • The Hebrew word used here for “free” is used throughout the Old Testament as the opposite of enslaved

      • “If being set free from slavery is equivalent to not having to pay taxes, then the implication is that having to pay taxes is being a slave.” - Patrick

    • The death of King Solomon (1 Kings 12)

      • The people asked his son for their yoke to be lightened

        • Yoke is often used to talk about slavery

      • Led to tax revolt and division of the kingdom

      • Solomon’s son asked 2 groups of people for advice

        • The elders said to listen to the people, lighten their taxes, and they’ll love you forever and gladly serve you

        • His younger friends advised him to tax even more heavily

          • He listened to them

    • Isaiah 58

      • Isaiah asked that every yoke be broken 

        • Taxation is talked about as a yoke

          • So, shouldn’t we want it to be broken and the oppressed set free?

21:21 We are not just oppressed; we are slaves

  • Not because the government is unjust

    • Even if they were just, they don’t have the right to tell us how to live

  • I should be able to choose whether or not I live under the government

  • Everyone knows the black community was enslaved

    • Also, the Irish

    • But they say we are free

  • If you have to ask permission to be free, you are a slave

  • Christians should walk away

    • We have one King

    • He did not establish these earthly governments

    • Follow Jesus Christ

  • Our current system will never change

    • We can’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results

    • Even if one guy lowers our taxes, the next might not

    • It’s not working

    • We have to walk away

  • “Understand that, to the extent that we participate in government, we are complicit in enslaving our neighbors.” - Patrick

    • Being police officers or in the military subjugates other citizens

      • Those officers take an oath to defend citizens from enemies foreign or domestic

        • If they really did that, they'd be protecting us from politicians

          • Not from the agents they sent in to pretend to attack the capitol

        • Definition of terrrorism: “The [unlawful] violence and intimidation that is used normally against civilians for political ends”

          • Had to add “unlawful” so police could intimidate

    • Voluntary society security

      • Not violent and intimidating

      • Run by the market, not politicians

        • Without police and military, politicians are nothing but people with bad ideas

      • Private security guards already outnumber our police force

28:30 New Testament Examples

  • We are Jesus-centric here

  • Matthew 17

    • Rulers do not tax their sons; only citizens

      • The sons are free

      • Israelites are sons of God

        • Therefore should not have to pay the temple tax

    • The most literal translation of the word for free is “not slaves”

      • Implying that those who pay taxes are slaves

    • Jesus got this across by asking Peter questions

      • He always made people think

32:00 Nehemiah (chapters 5 and 9)

  • Israel living under foreign rule

  • They took out loans on their fields to pay their taxes

    • Now, they owed interest

    • Their children were enslaved

    • They were powerless because they owned nothing

  • Nehemiah became a governor

    • Did not lay a heavy burden

      • Because he feared God

      • He saw taxing people too heavily as problematic

33:18 What constitutes too heavy of a tax?

  • Our taxes are much higher than most ancient times

  • The American Revolution was fought over what we would now call a very low tax rate

  • The point is, any level of tax means subjugation and theft

34:03 Israelites’ plea to God

  • They are slaves in the land He gave them to enjoy

  • All the fruits go to the king God put over them as punishment

  • The kings ruled their bodies and livestock

  • Some say they would not have been slaves if they were ruled by an Israelite

    • The line between foreigners and neighbors is not always clear

    • Christians are foreigners in all nations

35:37 1 Peter 2

  • In Greek, “human institution/authority” is really “human creation”

    • Governments are manmade

    • God set up priests

      • Government was not something He wanted to be a part of His creation

  • Jeremiah 27

    • Submit to your punishment of kings ruling

    • Romans 13

    • Doesn’t mean the empire is just

      • In Isaiah, God uses Assyria to punish Israel

        • But also punishes Assyria for their arrogance

38:55 Obedience vs submission

  • Rosa Parks submitted, but didn’t obey

  • You don’t have to obey if the law is unjust

    • But you have to submit to the consequences

  • Submission is a general attitude; obedience is on a law-by-law basis

  • Plenty of Biblical examples of people disobeying the law and being deemed righteous

  • If man’s law breaks God’s, we follow God’s

  • Many realized Caesar’s rule was illegitimate and wanted to overthrow it

    • Paul wrote Romans 13 in response

    • Violence is not the way of the Kingdom

  • Live as people who are free

    • But don’t use your freedom to sin

41:44 Can a real anarchist pay taxes?

  • “I’m not paying taxes; I’m avoiding jail.” - Larkin Rose

  • They steal them without my consent from my paycheck

  • I want to stay out of jail and spread the Kingdom

  • Romans 12:18

    • “Be at peace with everyone.”

  • Paul’s number one priority was to get the Gospel out there

    • If paying taxes is going to make some people view you more positively, do it

    • If we’re going around causing trouble, even if it’s justified, it’s not going to make people view us in a positive light

  • Peter told actual slaves to stay with their masters and serve them well

44:18 Civil disobedience

  • Not revolution

    • Even if you win, there’s still somebody in charge who uses violence to get what they want

  • MLK and his people did it right

    • No fighting back

  • Christians should be disobeying and taking the punishment when laws are garbage

46:37 Why we’re anarchists

  • We see governments behaving just as God warned us they would

  • They want us to respond with violence

    • That’s not how you teach about Jesus

  • We make change by promoting the Kingdom of Christ peacefully

  • Obey God rather than man

  • The 2 greatest commandments (Matthew 22:36-40)

    • Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength

    • Love your neighbor as yourself

    • “If a law is passed that gets in the way of me loving my neighbor, I will disobey that law.” - Patrick

49:30 How to make change

  • Talk about it

  • Preach about it

  • Help people understand we are being enslaved

  • Matthew 20:20-28

    • We live in an upside-down Kingdom

    • We should be turning people’s worldviews upside down


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