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37. Think for Yourself with Karen Keener

Craig Harguess
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Karen Keener, free thinker, natural health advocate, owner of The Sovereign Mom, and head of the Army of None (not yet released) can be found on Facebook, Instagram, and emailed at thekarenkeener@gmail.com.

She joins us today to talk about the denominational and political division among American Christians, the validity of most COVID diagnoses, and the blind compliance of the American public.

Timestamps & Starting Points:

1:35 “A church for smart people”

  • Growing up at Christian school, kids would fight about which denomination was right

  • She longed for a church without so much dogma, who used critical thinking

    • Without fear of being called blasphemous

  • Found Church of Religious Science

    • But politics got in there too

    • “politics gets involved in spirituality and then it's not really spiritual anymore” -Karen

5:39 Churches claiming to be the only valid -- or even the original -- group

  • But… many denominations started in the US

    • How can they trace their history back to the Early Church?

    • The Early Church was about Jesus, not doctrinal division

  • "I wanted to understand how they related to the state and there was no Baptist or church of Christ or Pentecostal, or none of that mentioned in their writings. It was all about Jesus." - Craig

9:28 Trump is equated with Jesus

  • "There was this whole fear that you were going to burn in Hell if you ask any questions." - Karen

  • It’s grown up to adulthood where people don’t question authority

    • Don’t question Trump

      • He is fighting the evil illuminati

    • They’ll call anyone who uses their own brain demonic

    • Y’all are crazy

14:11 It’s almost like Borderline Personality Disorder

  • Anything I agree with is holy

  • Anything I disagree with is evil

  • Humans are not seen as complex

    • They are either the embodiment of evil or good itself

    • If you point out a flaw or positive, they’ll say “Nobody’s perfect; only Jesus”

  • “This is like saying that Jack Black isn't a perfect replica of Beyonce… like they both can sing high notes, but like they're not perfect.     They’re such a far cry from each other, like Trump and perfection is so far away.” -Karen

    • It doesn’t matter if the person they’re following blatantly does evil, it is acceptable to them. If their enemy did that, they would be so upset

  • Young people are not growing up

    • Their parents are paying for everything

    • They’re taught not to think or question

    • They have been taught lies about history

    • Changing any of that is terrifying, so they cling to it

20:55 Craig and Karen’s political journeys

29:46  COVID theatrics

  • Karen’s friend’s dad got it

    • Proved to her that it was a real illness

    • Got sent away from the hospital because he “wasn’t bad enough for a ventilator”

    • Died after being on the ventilator for a month

    • Hospital would not offer any other treatment

  • Craig medically can’t mask

    • So he had to find other ways to fight it

      • VITAMINS

    • People with masks were the ones getting sick

    • He never got it, even when he spent time with those who did

  • Misdiagnosing COVID

    • Bacterial pneumonia and the flu both fit the diagnostic criteria

    • The actual tests were inaccurate

  • Deaths

    • Most people die in hospitals

      • If you diagnose everyone who comes into a hospital with COVID, then a lot of deaths will count towards it

  • Kerry Baldwin, The Virulence of Moral Panic

  • Misdiagnosing the flu

    • 37:15 Doctors are telling people, “The flu doesn’t exist anymore.”

    • Peter Doshi article from 2013

    • Make a big deal of it every year until now

    • They don’t usually test for Influenza

      • What if the symptoms are caused by something else?

        • Another illness

        • Eating poorly/detoxing from holidays

        • Less sun

        • Cold weather

        • Mold

        • Stress

  • Refusing to treat people

    • Hospitals incentivized to have serious cases

    • Didn’t offer typical pneumonia treatments to help

      • Waited for patients to be severe enough for ventilators

41:52 What’s the next thing?

  • Karen's episode with Pete Quinones

  • People are rule-followers, not boat-rockers

  • Changing the rules

    • Little kids need to mask now

  • Can they mandate a vaccine for work?

    • Anyone can ask, but they cannot require you to answer

  • We have our own authority; we don’t have to follow irrational laws

  • But how do we know who is on our side now?

    • People are not wearing masks because they’re vaccinated AND because they just don’t want to

  • Maybe an alien invasion to unite us under one world government?

  • “Not that COVID was fake, but the pandemic was fake.” -Karen

  • They’re timing the changes in law so people will feel grateful and willing to listen