What is "disestablishmentarianism"? In this episode, Craig speaks with Michael Korbel about his article Against Those Who Are Against the State, where he defines this word(antidisestablishmentarianism) as a mindset of being against those who are against the establishment. Right now, those of us who are refusing to comply with current mandates are being not only ridiculed but actually kicked out of businesses and schools. Together, we explore how we got to this point, what we can do to thrive in this environment, and how understanding the word disestablishmentarianism can help us frame current events.

Michael Korbel is the host of The Invictus Mind podcast where he interviews experts about political, financial, and spiritual freedom for the individual. Invictus is Greek for unconquerable. His main message is that individuals have the power to make changes for themselves in their lives. They just have to take that power from those in the systems who claim it over them. You can connect with and learn more about Michael on Facebook, Twitter, MeWe, Instagram, and YouTube.

Timestamps & Starting Points:

2:18 Mask mandates in March 2021

• Getting kicked out of the post office

• Restaurants making people wear masks to wait, but not to eat

  •  They’re worried about health inspectors

    • “a lot of these people are just concerned about what the government can do.”

6:11 Antidisestablishmentarianism

• means “against those who are against the status quo”

10:03 History of antidisestablishmentarianism

• Henry the 8th in 1533

  • Forbidden to divorce by the Pope

    • Wanted out of several marriages because no sons

    • Created the Anglican Church so he could divorce 

      • Everything the king said became a religion

      • Divine Right of Kings & antidisestablishmentarianism

        • Anyone who opposed him was opposed

• Simultaneously, Luther and others were pulling away from Roman Catholic control

  • Enlightenment

  • Other sects were forbidden by England

14:42 Entanglement

• Are our laws based on Jesus or the 10 Commandments?

  • Sort of… only the commandments about loving other people were made into laws here; nothing about who to worship or how

• Our founding fathers were not all Christians

  • They wanted to create a place where anyone could practice religion however they want

  • Laws were created to keep people safe, not properly religious

  • Compared to England where there was Divine Right of Kings to speak for God and rule the people with His power

18:06 Can morality be legislated?

• “Conservatives believe that without the establishment, morality would cease to exist in society” -Craig

• Mike says draw the line at the government throwing people in cages for not living up to your standards of morality

  • People shouldn’t be allowed to steal or harm others, but why can’t they choose their own relationships?

  • Craig asks how can you judge these people when you don’t even know any?

  • They are suffering in the church and contemplating suicide. We’re doing something wrong.

  • Really, it’s none of our business. Jesus says love people. Period.

• Live by Matt Kibbe’s words: “Don’t hurt me; don’t take my stuff.”

  • If a person is doing something you don’t like, but it doesn’t hurt you, and they’re not taking your stuff… it’s none of your business

• The Left’s way of forcing morality

  • Forcing “charity” through taxes

  • “The left thinks that they can force people through the state to act a certain way, just like the right thinks they can use the state to force people to act a certain way.” -Craig

26:51 Separation of church and state

• We can live with people who have different gods without hurting each other

• The state cannot dictate who or how we worship

29:39 How Involved to be in the state

• The Early Church had nothing to do with the state

  • “Nothing about the teachings of Christ said, get your favorite politician elected so we can legislate morality.” - Craig

    • Christ said to love God; love people

  • If someone really wants to fix a problem using the state, they can’t. Not without unraveling the entire thing. It’s all so connected 

    • For example: if taxes were abolished, at least three other systems would be devastated

• It’s so hard for us to disentangle because we’ve been so tied to the state for so long

• "When there are presidential debates, I'd rather watch wrestling. That's more realistic to me than a presidential debate." -Craig

• Stop voting.

  • But if you just can't, at least choose to only vote for your local community leaders

  • If you must vote at the national level, select a 3rd party candidate

  • “I can't control what they're going to do. So I might as well just stay out of it.” -Mike

40:09 The fall of the empire

• Rulers exploit religion to conquer and pillage

• If it falls in our lifetime, I don't anticipate chaos

  • People will figure out how to adjust

• So many parallels to the Roman empire before their collapse

  • The basement of currency

  • Lack of morality among common people

  • Overreaching government

    • Expanding control to other countries

• People need to find something else to put their faith in because it's going down

• If it's not our generation, it could be your children's or grandchildren's